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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James from London" data-source="post: 116795" data-attributes="member: 22">1969Derek Branning: Last letter I wrote was in 1969. “Dear Aunt Bess, thanks for the socks, Derek.”Denise Celeste Fox: I’m just a few months older [than you].Max Branning: 1969 — a vintage year.Denise’s birth certificate: Born twenty-first of January 1969. Father, unknown. Mother, Ada Fox.Ian Beale: You’re originally from Guyana, aren’t you?Denise: No.Denise: The gods up there, they’ve been peeing on my parade since Day One.Heather Trott: Mummy left me outside the co-op once. She’d taken me in the pram to do a spot of shopping. It wasn’t till she got home that she realised she’d left me.Denise: Did she go back?Heather: Not until after [I]Doctor Who[/I]. And do you know what the worst thing is? Someone had only gone and nicked the wheels off the pram.Kathy Beale on being pregnant: Pete thought it was going to be a girl. He did that test, you know — the weight on a bit of string and you hold it over your lump and if it goes anti-clockwise, it's going to be a boy. Or is it the other way round?Dot: I did that with my Nick. It went up and down in a straight line.Dot Cotton on Nick: Never did know how to show his feelings. Took after his father.Nick: If I am a psychopath, you have to wonder where I got it from. Dot: Well you didn’t get it from me. It must have been your father.Dot on Nick: He always loved growing things when he was a kid.Dot on Nick: He always hated the water.Dot to Nick: You was ever so skinny when you was a little boy. You had arms like pipe cleaners.Nick Cotton: Wiry, not skinny.Dot: Oh yeah, you were sturdy. I'll grant you that. Mind you, who always had to take the tops off the pickle jars?Dot: I used to keep [syrup] tins in my useful box. My Nick used to use them as telephones — you know, two cans, string between.Dot on the fish and chip shop on Turpin Road: I used to send Nick in when he was a little boy. Oh, they did a lovely rock salmon.Dot: Charlie may not have been much of a father, but you had it made up to you. You never wanted for anything, did you?Nick: The things I wanted, you never had to give. Some of them you never even heard of. You should have had a pet [instead] — a little dog like Ethel, a little doggy of your own.Dot: People round here, a lot of them, they've known you since you was a little boy.Nick: They hated me.Dot on Nick: He was a little rascal, but boys are, aren't they? And then it went from being a little rascal to naughtier things, and because I loved himso much, I made excuses for him. Lou told me, she said, "You're making yourself a cross to bear. Thrash him." How could I thrash him? I believed in "spare the rod and spoil the child." Even Ethel saw what was happening before me.Ethel to Dot: You spoilt that boy of yours.Dot: I learned long ago the mistake, turning a blind eye.Sonia Jackson: You mean Nick?Dot: Yes, I do.Ava Hartman: There was a phrase doing the rounds whenI was growing up — “short sharp shock.”Douglas Baker, sarcastically: It’s not Dot’s fault that Nick turned out to be a spoilt, overindulged little brat. It’s the Devil’s fault.Dot: I weren’t a good mother to my Nick. It’s all my fault. I spoilt him.Dot on Nick: It must have been me. Otherwise why did he get into all of that trouble all of his life?Nick to Dot: You never believed in me — not when I was a kid, not when I was at school, for as long as I can remember.Dot to Douglas Baker: I used to visit your mother [in Kent] when you was a little boy.Douglas: I remember — Aunty Dot. You were a great churchgoer, weren’t you?Dot: You were such a lovely little boy.Douglas to Dot: You say I was a lovely happy little child. No, I wasn’t. I was unhappy, I was miserable and I was oppressed and mostly, that was down to my mother and her straitjacket, godforsaken religion.Dot to Nick: I used to read to you [from the Bible] at night when you was little.Nick to Dot: I never listened to [your] Heaven and Hell rubbish when I was a kid.Dot: I sometimes think the more you try to guide someone, the more wicked they turn out.Dot: I’ve always believed, just because a person does wicked things, it don’t necessarily make them wicked.Dot to Nick’s son Charlie Jr: Your father didn’t believe in nothing. That’s why he led the life he did.Dot to Nick: Do you remember that children’s service at the church? I made your costume for you. It was Harvest Festival and you went as a carrot. And Ethel, she come with us and she smuggled Willie in in her shopping bag and he kept growling at that bird on that there woman’s hat and I was cross with you because you was giggling and I told you off. I wish I’d laughed. I mean, you can laugh in church. You never went to Sunday school again. I should have done more.Nick on Dot: You think she’s all sweetness and light, do you? Butter wouldn’t melt? I’ve seen some things. So’s my old man.Nick: "I want you to reflect on your sins," my sainted ma used to say. She used to lock me in the under-stair cupboard till I learned my lesson.Nick: What did I ever have as a kid? Just a load of rules.Dot: No, but a mother has to teach a child.Nick: I didn’t want no teacher. I wanted a mother.Dot to Nick: I weren’t a good mother. I saw what you were growing into and I shut me eyes to it. I kept thinking that you’d change, but deep down I knew it was all my fault. It was me what created a monster.Nick: My ma was God's personal representative for Walford East. I only had to nick a biscuit and I was going to burn in Hell.Mark Fowler: I didn't think Anglicans believed in Hell.Nick: If Ma thought she could hit me with something, she'd believe in anything.Dot: I never was a tolerant person. I can remember nights standing there, clutching onto the sink, asking Jesus to give me strength — Charlie just done a bunk just when the rent man was due, Nick grizzling, pushing his food round and round his plate till I could have throttled him. Well I mean, there was people starving. Three hours I made him sit there once. Lamb stew - I made him eat every mouthful, all cold, fatty. Taking the sins of the father out, you see. Jean Slater: Mum used to make us eat brains when we were little, like soup. Can’t buy them now, of course, because of mad cow disease. I refused once, to eat the brains. She wasn’t having any of it. Said they were nutritious. Forced me to eat every drop. When I swallowed the last mouthful I threw the whole lot up over her favourite table cloth. I didn’t mean to. She didn’t ask me to eat them again though, did she?Peggy: You know Eric, he had an appetite on him. He could eat anything. Do you know what he used to do? Get me to make him brains on toast.Phil: Anyone’s we knew?Dot: There are twelve [teaspoons] in an apostle set — and Jesus, of course, but my Nick dropped Him down the drain when he was little to prove He couldn’t walk on water.Dot: Here are eleven apostle spoons. There should be twelve, but my Nick dropped one down the drain whenhe was little.Dot on her tea set: That’s Royal Albert. It was left to me by my Aunty Gwen.Dot: Mrs Lowe used to live at the bottom of George Street. You smashed her window once when you was playing football.Nick: Yeah, I couldn’t sit down for a week.Dot: Look at my Nick, I saw him go from smashing windows to being in prison.Pete Beale: Bruiser — that's what me and Kathy called [Ian] before he was born.Pete to Ian: Before you was born, your mum was even washing down the paintwork. There was no stopping her. And before she went into — you know, before it started — she insisted on hanging out the washing before she went to hospital. I was the nervous wreck.Kathy on childbirth: In my day, you just did what you were told. You went into hospital, out they came and you didn't give it much thought. I was nearly nineteen.Alfie Moon on Ian: Born in the outside toilet of Number 45.Ian: Walford General.Ian Beale: Date of Birth 01.03.69DCI Jill Marsden on Ian: The man was born squirming.Phil Mitchell: Ian, you were born a weasel.Ian: My middle name’s Buffet.Sadie Young: Cruel mother.Dot on Ian: I remember Kath and Pete bringing him home from the hospital when he was a little baby.Ian on Dot: That woman has been part of my life since I was born.Kathy: When Ian was newborn, what I remember most is this urge, it was really strong, just to protect him. It was more important than anything in the world. He was such a lovely baby. We were so proud. He had a mass of curly hair, looked a bit like Shirley Temple. He had a right little pair of lungs on him. He never slept through the night.Kathy: Even Pete changed nappies the first week.Arthur Fowler to Ian: I can remember you keeping Kathy awake till you were four months old.Pete to Ian: Me and your mum worked hours on that stall to give you a start in life.Pauline: Ethel used to push Ian around in his pram.Pat: Ian was acting shifty in his pram.Dot on Ian: Bright little thing he was, into everything.Jim Branning on his son Max: He was born bad, he was.Derek Branning on Max: I was there when Max was born.Tanya Branning to Max: You should have been sterilised at birth.Derek on Max: When he first come along, I was about nine. I remember the day that my mother first introduced me to him like it was yesterday. From that moment on, I loved him.Jim to Max’s son Bradley: Your dad was a right little shrimp. You could hold him in the palm of your hands.Dot: Lou, Ethel and me used to go to the Roxy [Bingo Hall] of a Friday night. The women of Walford packed it out.Billy Mitchell on his mother: Came home from school one day and she'd run off. She'd had a win on the bingo the night before and just packed up her stuff and left us.Phil to Billy: You know, when we was kids I used to actually feel sorry for you, what with your mum running away and all that stuff, but let's face it, mate, one look at you, she couldn't wait to pack her bags, could she, eh?Billy to Phil: You don’t know what it’s like growing up without a mum, do you? Peggy, she was always there for you, weren’t she? Fighting your corner. I know it wasn’t a perfect childhood, but at least you grew up knowing that she loved you. You never had to question it so you don’t know what it’s like to question it every minute of every day. It eats away at you, Phil.Billy on his mother: I don't know why she left us. I mean, she couldn't have hated me and me brother. It was me old man who she hated.Billy: I never seen my old man. He was always at work or down the dogs or in the boozer. I used to end up walking the streets starving. That's when social services stepped in. I got picked up and slung in a children’s home.Aunt Sal on Billy: [Peggy’s] ex-husband's idiot cousin once removed who everyone loved so much he grew up in an orphanage.Billy on Ernie Johnson: I used to know him when I was a kid. He was a carer in a children's home that I was in.Ernie Johnson on Billy's mother: None of this would have happened if it weren't for her and your old man.Billy: No, it weren't her fault. It's kids — you know, drag you down.Billy: The second day I was in the home was me tenth birthday. Some present, eh? Ernie was in charge there.Billy on the care home: You hope if you can keep your head down, don't catch anyone's eye, don't get on anyone's nerves, keep quiet, that they'll leave you alone. You just want to be left on your own till you can go home again.Billy: I am talking about my lovely childhood. I'm talking about Graham Ash, Danny Bilson, Len Collis with the dodgy eye. I'm talking about PE in thefreezing rain. I'm talking lights out at eight and no whispering. I am talking about lamb stew you could grout the walls with. I'm talking about little kids, little boys, on their own with no one. I am talking about my lovely care home. I am talking about Hope Manor.Ernie on the boys at Hope Manor: You were all little perishers in your own way, weren't you?Archie Mitchell: I don’t suppose you remember much about our dad, do you — Grandpa Phil, the one you was named after?Phil: My dad used to tell us stories about him, what he got up to in the war and that.Phil on his grandfather: He was a bit of a character. Must have died when I was about eight or nine or something.Ronnie Mitchell: I never knew him.Archie on his father: He died. Heart attack. June the fourteenth 1969. Good day, great day. “Good riddance to bad rubbish” - the very words your [Phil’s] dad said to me at his funeral.Archie to Phil: [Eric] came that close to running away from you and your mum. They [Eric and Maureen Loftus] were going to move to Portugal together.Phil: Maureen Loftus, didn’t she came round to our house once?Archie: The thing was, last minute, just as they’re about to fly off to Portugal, tickets booked and everything, Eric gets cold feet. “Can’t do this to Peggy and the boys.” And he was crying as he said it to me.Phil: Dad — crying?Archie: Yeah. He stayed because of you. And I don’t think your mother realises to this day the sacrifice he made for her. Maureen was the love of his life and when he lost her, it drove him nuts. 1969, that’s when the drinking started to get out of hand.Phil to Grant: You think we was happier because Dad stuck around? Dad got trapped, he got angry and he took it out on us.Peggy on Archie: He was so kind to me. When all that stuff was going on with Eric, he’s the only one I could turn to.Archie: Eric was in love with [Maureen], just like I was in love with you. Come on, Peggy, I know I didn’t say anything at the time, but don’t pretend you didn’t know or that you didn’t feel the same way. I still remember the night after the Bobby McGuinn fight and so do you. If you’d have just said the word ...Peggy: I couldn’t do it to the boys.Archie: That’s exactly what Eric said.Phil, looking at an old photograph: That’s her, isn’t it, Maureen Loftus?Archie: Good God, that was taken the night of the Bobby McGuinn fight.Phil: Who’s Bobby McGuinn?Archie: He was just another never-wasser. That’s Dougie, your mum, dad, me and Glenda.Phil: Who are the others at the back?Archie: Friends of mine. I forget their names now. Look at them smiles, eh? You ever seen anything so phoney? Pretending for the camera. She [Maureen] was a beauty though, was she not?Peggy to Glenda, Archie’s future wife: You’re a phoney and you always have been.Aunt Sal: You never were much of a liar, were you, Glenda?Peggy on Glenda: Born actress, she was.Glenda to Peggy: You were always the one [Archie] loved, but Eric snapped you up first and a few years later, along came the consolation prize.Glenda Mitchell: I've spent my entire life struggling with self-esteem issues.Peggy to Ronnie, Glenda and Archie’s daughter: I never did like your mum.Peggy: You was only interested in Archie because of the size of his wallet.Glenda: I gave Archie the best years of my youth.Phil: You’re the one who cocked it up.Peggy: I wish I could have done things differently then.Archie: For a while I tried hating you. I couldn’t forgive you for choosing Eric, for sticking by him even when he ... you know.Peggy: Was knocking me about?Archie: Yeah, even then. I mean, you came to me for help but you didn’t really see me. It didn’t last. I couldn’t hate you for long, but I knew I had to make a life away from you. I never thought I’d ever get the chance to be with you.Patrick Trueman: The West Indies [cricket team] came over here in 1969 and I had a net with them. Bowled a few overs to Clive [Lloyd]. The man damn near took me head off. Hit me back down the ground over and over again — dampadampadampadam! Long memory, that boy!Billy: When I was ten years old, when I was in the kids home, they let us stay up one night to watch the moon landing. I remember sitting there thinking, “When I grow up I’m going to be a astronaut. I’m going to be like Dan Dare and go to Mars, fight the Mekons and stuff.”Pauline: I had to do The Twist to shift Michelle [i.e., induce labour]. It was Mum's idea.Lou Beale to Michelle: You was born here in this house [45 Albert Square].Arthur Fowler: I was at the hospital the day Chelle was born. The nurse gave me this funny little bundle and said, "Congratulations, Mr Fowler. you've got a daughter."Pauline: You were as chuffed as ninepence.Pauline to Mark: When you and Chelle came along, I just carried on doing what I'd always done [propping up Arthur]. I think I was quite good at it.Pauline: After Mark and Michelle was born, we thought we wouldn't be having any more.Pauline: Mark slept all the way through his [christening] and Michelle screamed her head off all the way through hers.Pauline: The family christening shawl, no child in this family was ever christened without it.Pauline: When my Michelle was a baby, she was so clinging I could never put her down.Pauline: Michelle, I could never get her to go to sleep [as a baby]. When we did manage to get her to go down, we just had to creep about because theslightest thing would wake her.Sue Miller: A delicate child?Pauline: Tough as old boots.Pauline: I loved it when my kids were babies.Pauline: When I couldn't have them things that I'd dreamt about, I used to dream about [Mark and Michelle] having them.Pauline: My mother brought me up to believe that the mother should be strong - make a strong family, a normal family.Pauline: I didn't want to be independent from my mum. All I wanted was her help, and she wanted to give it to me.Arthur to Pauline: You used to say it was Lou that held you back. There she was, living with us and there was nothing we could do about it. "If it wasn't for Lou," you used to say, "we could go anywhere, do anything. Instead, we ended up in Walford.”Mark Fowler: You must have had your hands full when we were little, even though it was just two [of us].Pauline: Well at times it felt like [there was] fourteen [of] you.Pauline: I didn't work [when] my Mark and Michelle [were babies].Pauline: I’ve had a job all my life, being a wife and mother, feeding and clothing you lot.Pauline on her children: I palmed them off onto Mum, uncles and aunts. Never had the time [to spend with them]. Always had to work.Pauline: My Mark and Chelle used to go and stay with an aunt of mine. They always put on weight, maybe because I wasn't feeding them enough.Derek Harkinson: How long has your mum worked [at the launderette on Bridge Street]?Mark: As long as I can remember.Jean Slater: “Got to keep your whites right.” That’s what my mum used to say.Gina Williams: Cindy and I used to stay with an aunt in Leighton.Sharon Watts: I've been on my own all my life, from the day I was born.Sharon: I was born in Southend.Carol Hanley (née Stretton), Sharon's biological mother: Things were different when she was born. You didn't have "single parent families", not then. You had "unmarried mothers" and "illegitimate babies", brass rings off the market with the stone turned into your palm so they'd call you Mrs at the clinic. You weren't allowed to get over it.Sharon on her biological father: What was his name?Carol: Gavin. When you were born, I never even saw you, Sharon. I knew you were going. I knew I wasn't going to keep you. So I kept my eyes closed. I didn't see you. I just pretended you weren't even there.Carol on Sharon: When I gave her up, I said, "Tell me if anything happens to her," because if anything happened, I'd have wanted to know. If anything had happened to the people that took her, I would have ... but they said I couldn't.Pauline: I used to think if anything terrible happened to me, one of my mates would bring my children in, take them in and bring them up as their own.Pauline on Michelle: I sat up all night with her when she had that bad whooping cough. Didn't think her little body was going to stand it.Arthur: Well it did, and in the week, she was as right as rain.Pauline on children’s medicine: My old mum used to say, "Always read the label before you open the bottle, read it again when you've measured out the dose, and a third and last time before you give it to them - and that way you can't go wrong."Charlie Slater to Lynne: You were about one or two, I suppose, when we moved to Brannigan Court - brand new flats. For some people, it was the first time they'd had an indoor toilet. Look at it now - just another sink estate, but back then we thought we'd all died and gone to Heaven. People were having parties all the time, I kid you not. And it was at one of these parties that we met Bunny Lakin for the first time - a character, larger than life and twice as handsome. Very funny guy, I liked him a lot, but then so did your mother. I never knew what happened exactly, I never asked any questions, but she changed. I couldn't quite put me finger on it, but I knew. I was doing the Knowledge at the time so I was out all hours - time to think, imagine.Lynne: How long did it go on for?Charlie: I don't know, about six months. Then suddenly, Bunny Lakin went. No explanation, no nothing. And your mother, well she was - well I wouldn't use this word at the time, but I can say it now - she was brokenhearted. But I didn't do nothing, I didn't say nothing, I just carried on as before and bit by bit, she came round. We never mentioned Bunny Lakin again until a couple of days before she died.Patrick Trueman: I had this beautiful girl once, sweet Marie.Paul Trueman: Is this after you married our mother?Patrick: Things were a bit lukewarm in the conjugal relations department so I started giving this little cutie the wink. What I didn't know is that she was already engaged to another fella. I mean, it wouldn't have mattered because all I want to do was to keep me little woman on she toes, but her fiancee didn't see it like that so one day he come up to me with a knife and me man rip open me guts before I could get a word out. I end up in hospital for a fortnight, you know. Mind you, he get two years so it's me who come out on top.Paul: Cobblers. Tall tales.Patrick: You want proof? I'm going to show you proof. [Shows a six inch scar on his stomach]Paul: And how old were you when you had that done?Patrick: I don't know - twenty-three, twenty-four. It worked. Me little woman was all over me after that, you know.Angel Hudson: Bit of a lad, were you?Patrick: Yeah, man!Patrick: Nothing wrong with running away, you know. You know how many bedroom windows I climbed out of?Charlie: I’d get stuck.Tony Carpenter: I was quite a handsome man in my day. I could have had my pick. It was a bit of a struggle fighting them off, but I managed to live with it.Angie Watts: How soon did you meet Hannah after you and your first wife split up?Tony: About a month. My feelings for Hannah were very genuine.Tony to Hannah: I remember the first time I saw you at that boring town hall reception your old man was giving. I only went for the free booze and there you were in that grey dress, the coolest little uptight madam you ever saw, but I knew then.Hannah Carpenter, Tony's wife: Someone once said to me, it was one of my aunties actually, Tony was my bit of rough. I was most indignant at the time. "He may be a rebel," I said, "but he's not rough."Tony to Hannah: I remember when we used to raid the fridge, ravenous, in the middle of the night.Hannah to Tony: I've still got that brooch you made me.Ian Beale: What was so good about being young?Minty Peterson: The whole future spread out in front of you.Dot to Minty: Don't tell me you didn't get into mischief when you was small, hanging about with them Mitchell boys.Minty: I could make water bombs.Alfie Moon: Flower bombs and stink bombs!Minty on his favourite age: Eleven. Went to bed before me twelfth birthday - I was a boy, I knew exactly what was expected of me. I woke up the nextmorning - I was too long for me bed, I had little tufts of hair growing out of everywhere and I was like a big geezer. Shocking, it was.Alfie: When I was five, I wanted to be a bin man.Billy: Yeah well, it's a good job.Billy on life at Hope Manor: Had a jamboree bag once. You got a bit of liquorice, a sticker and a flying saucer with sherbet in. I got it with the money me old man sent me for Christmas. But there was a dorm check so I hid it under me bed in a shoe box. Safe there, no worries. But I had some sherbet round the corner of me mouth, didn't I? Sherbet from the flying saucer. Dead giveaway.Ernie Hudson: Was this after lights out? I bet you got a ticking off!Billy: I had to stand in the garden in the frost in me underpants till me legs was cold and raw. Hurt more, that's why, when you took the belt to me.Ernie: Billy, that wasn't me.Billy: Then there was the time me and Danny, we'd messed about with the heating, just for a laugh, and you taped one of my hands to the radiator for three minutes. You had a referee's watch and you timed it. Three minutes, that's a long time.Ernie: No. Billy ...Billy: I was a little boy. I had skinny little arms and legs and a little hand with numbers written on it for me maths and you held my hand to that radiator and it was so hot, it made the ink run.Ernie: I know some of the carers had a reputation. I know some of them were a bit hard, but we weren't all like that.Billy on an old wireless radio: Made one of these once when I was a kid. It was a crystal set. Present from me Aunty Peggy, as it goes. I used to work on it at night in me bed, under the covers.Ernie: Why under the covers?Billy: Because I didn't want anyone to get hold of it, did I? They'd have smashed it up just to see the look on my face.Billy: I was in care. I know what it’s like to feel unloved, unwanted, completely on your own. It’s horrible. You ain’t got nothing. Nothing’s your own,nothing.Peggy: Your dad, he bought you [a racing car set] one Christmas, do you remember? You must have been ten, eleven.Phil: I was eight.Phil: I seen it on the telly and I nagged me mum for months about it.Peggy to Phil: You pestered me for weeks. I kept nudging your dad and all he’d say was, “Oh, it’s too much,” and I was so worried you’d be disappointed.Phil on Peggy: About a week before Christmas, I asked her if I was getting it or not. She said, "Wait and see," and she winked at me so I knew that I was. Christmas Eve, I couldn’t sleep, I was so excited. About four o'clock in the morning, I decided to go down and look at me presents. I went downstairs, but I couldn't see anything. I didn't want to turn the light on so I lit this candle and there it was, this racing track all laid out on the floor, flickering in the candle light. I knew Mum hadn't done it. Me dad had done it. He'd done all that for me. I was so happy. I don't think I'd ever been that happy in my life. I went back to bed, but I just couldn't sleep. I was so excited. Anyway, we weren't allowed downstairs until Dad got up so I heard him in the bathroom and Mum saying, "Come on, hurry up," and Dad going down and I knew that soon I'd get the call, you know, to go down, but well, the call never came. Dad came in the room, he grabbed me by the hair, he dragged me downstairs. There was wax all over the track. He smashed it all up and chucked it in the bin. Then he took his belt off. My little legs, they were shaking so much I thought they were going to give way. Mum was sobbing, but he said I needed to be taught a lesson. So he grabbed my head and he pushed it down on the draining board. I remember I could smell the bleach. Mum was screaming and begging him to stop. I turned my little head and I looked at her. I said, "Please, Mummy." I think he must have seen me lip trembling as I choked back the tears because he screamed at me the way he always screamed. "Be a man!" And then it started, me whimpering and him screaming, "Be a man! BE A MAN!" Mum eventually got him off me and I spent the rest of Christmas Day in me room. I was eight years old. I was going to run away that night. I even wrote a note. I never did. I think I was more scared what he would have done if he'd have caught me than if I'd have stayed. I think I wrote that just to get it out of me system.Sharon: You kept it?Phil: Yeah, I had it in me room. I think part of me wanted them to find it, you know, so they knew how I felt, but they never did. Found it years later. We were moving house. Kept it ever since.Patrick: I remember my Paul, man. When he couldn’t sleep, Audrey used to put him to bed with a candle. He loved it — the flickering light, the smell. It worked a treat.</blockquote>

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