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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 89378" data-attributes="member: 57984"><p>Is that "The Divine Feud" by Somebody Considine?</p><p></p><p>Bette alleged that Joan had sabotaged her in the Oscars by campaigning against her and then calling all the nominees and offering to pick up the statue if they won. Bette was convinced she was a shoo-in as the victor. When Anne Bancroft's name was called as Best Actress for THE MIRACLE WORKER, Joan supposedly brushed passed Bette backstage (where the nominees used to wait) and said something like, "Outta my way/excuse me/move-it cow, I've got an Oscar to accept."</p><p></p><p>Had Bette won, it would have likely meant an increased box office take for BABY JANE, and given that both actresses had profit participation in the film, Bette felt Joan's treachery was terribly self-destructive.</p><p></p><p>What ever happened with baby Joan next seemed to prove Bette's theory about self-destruction. When Fox re-teamed the two actresses and director Robert Aldrich, Bette had gotten "associate producer" status (that credit does not appear on screen) and, as the story goes, Bette was trying to slash Joan's role while Joan was trying to do the opposite. Aldrich must have agreed with Bette about Joan's Oscar campaign behavior, because on CHARLOTTE he apparently made little effort to rein in Bette's tricks against Crawford, his probably figuring that diva Joan could handle herself (reportedly, he'd kept everybody under control during BABY JANE).</p><p></p><p>Crawford later insisted, probably accurately, that Bette had poisoned the crew against her before Joan got to Houmas House in Louisiana. Eventually, Joan felt so "bullied" (bullies are always cowards, which has been said about both actresses at one point or the other) that she left under the pretext that she was ill before any of her scenes with Bette had been filmed, and refused to show up on the set back in Hollywood to complete filming. Over the next few weeks, Aldrich put a detective on Crawford to see if she was fibbing. Joan was too slick for them and didn't stumble in her facade. (Her pal, director Vincent Sherman, visited her in the hospital where she admitted she wasn't sick and just didn't want to continue working with Bette). Finally, Bette realizing that Joan had no intention of either quitting or coming back to the set -- she planned to get the picture shelved, with Fox collecting the insurance for a failed start production instead -- Bette and Bob pondered who could replace Joan. (Several icons were approach and refused, or were just ruled out).</p><p></p><p>Olivia deHavilland at first said "no" but then Aldrich flew to the ski slopes of Switzerland and talked her into it.</p><p></p><p>The movie was finished by the first anniversary of Kennedy's murder, and released Christmas Eve of 1964 so it would qualify for Oscar nominations (it got 7, although it wouldn't win any) and then went into wide release by the following spring. It did well at the box office.</p><p></p><p>Joan never again appeared in an A-list movie (even her cameo scenes in ROSEMARY'S BABY were cut) and given that she'd now earned a reputation for sabotaging productions and/or their Oscar bids over petty squabbles with Bette -- no innocent, Miss Davis, but at least she didn't force the films into potential financial trouble as Joan had -- it's no wonder. </p><p></p><p>Later, Crawford said of Aldrich that he's "a man who loves evil, horrendous, vile things," to which he responded: "If the shoe fits, wear it. And I am very fond of Miss Crawford."</p><p></p><p>At least, that's the legend.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a3/6a/d9/a36ad9eb6a550785e5fa08187da6bc0f.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 89378, member: 57984"] Is that "The Divine Feud" by Somebody Considine? Bette alleged that Joan had sabotaged her in the Oscars by campaigning against her and then calling all the nominees and offering to pick up the statue if they won. Bette was convinced she was a shoo-in as the victor. When Anne Bancroft's name was called as Best Actress for THE MIRACLE WORKER, Joan supposedly brushed passed Bette backstage (where the nominees used to wait) and said something like, "Outta my way/excuse me/move-it cow, I've got an Oscar to accept." Had Bette won, it would have likely meant an increased box office take for BABY JANE, and given that both actresses had profit participation in the film, Bette felt Joan's treachery was terribly self-destructive. What ever happened with baby Joan next seemed to prove Bette's theory about self-destruction. When Fox re-teamed the two actresses and director Robert Aldrich, Bette had gotten "associate producer" status (that credit does not appear on screen) and, as the story goes, Bette was trying to slash Joan's role while Joan was trying to do the opposite. Aldrich must have agreed with Bette about Joan's Oscar campaign behavior, because on CHARLOTTE he apparently made little effort to rein in Bette's tricks against Crawford, his probably figuring that diva Joan could handle herself (reportedly, he'd kept everybody under control during BABY JANE). Crawford later insisted, probably accurately, that Bette had poisoned the crew against her before Joan got to Houmas House in Louisiana. Eventually, Joan felt so "bullied" (bullies are always cowards, which has been said about both actresses at one point or the other) that she left under the pretext that she was ill before any of her scenes with Bette had been filmed, and refused to show up on the set back in Hollywood to complete filming. Over the next few weeks, Aldrich put a detective on Crawford to see if she was fibbing. Joan was too slick for them and didn't stumble in her facade. (Her pal, director Vincent Sherman, visited her in the hospital where she admitted she wasn't sick and just didn't want to continue working with Bette). Finally, Bette realizing that Joan had no intention of either quitting or coming back to the set -- she planned to get the picture shelved, with Fox collecting the insurance for a failed start production instead -- Bette and Bob pondered who could replace Joan. (Several icons were approach and refused, or were just ruled out). Olivia deHavilland at first said "no" but then Aldrich flew to the ski slopes of Switzerland and talked her into it. The movie was finished by the first anniversary of Kennedy's murder, and released Christmas Eve of 1964 so it would qualify for Oscar nominations (it got 7, although it wouldn't win any) and then went into wide release by the following spring. It did well at the box office. Joan never again appeared in an A-list movie (even her cameo scenes in ROSEMARY'S BABY were cut) and given that she'd now earned a reputation for sabotaging productions and/or their Oscar bids over petty squabbles with Bette -- no innocent, Miss Davis, but at least she didn't force the films into potential financial trouble as Joan had -- it's no wonder. Later, Crawford said of Aldrich that he's "a man who loves evil, horrendous, vile things," to which he responded: "If the shoe fits, wear it. And I am very fond of Miss Crawford." At least, that's the legend. [IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a3/6a/d9/a36ad9eb6a550785e5fa08187da6bc0f.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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