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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevew" data-source="post: 212645" data-attributes="member: 130">Very emotional.  I once wrote that Cliff was having difficulty with understanding reality.  Not sure if that can be a result of neurofibromatosis as well but I would imagine so.  Anyway and Pamela was seeing John Ross he assumed the babies were John Ross’s and he just “knew” John Ross was his son.  He felt so guilty over what happened and so terrible for these babies he hoped they die as a mercy killing being the spawn of incest.  He was devastated but felt he had to protect Pamela from dealing with the guilt of sleeping with her brother and the disfigurement he was certain the babies would be born with.  Anyway it was one explanation of Cliff’s behavior.  I never thought the TNT story was awful, just developed poorly.  If we’d had such explanation we could have believed it and felt bad for Cliff.  Instead we agreed he should root in prison.   The thing is, in the original, there was reason to empathize with all the main characters, even JR.  In TNT I found myself not empathizing with any one except John Ross because his parents were such a huge part of the original for me.  Maybe that’s some CC should take away from this, people have to care about your characters, Bernie if they’re and people overall, it’s a serial as l not a movie.  In a movie they cheer when they die but when they die it’s over and the point of a serial is to go on.  Nice use of Afton by the way.  Don’t know how they can get past Pam not being given the chance to fix things with her father.  If you can forgive Cliff for what he did to Pamela’s children, how can you not forgive Pamela for what she did to her father?</blockquote>

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