Downfall - the case against Boeing.

[pete lashmar]

On Netflix, this documentary was both fascinating and frightening.

It's the story of what happened when 2 Boeing 737 Max flights crashed within 5 months of each other, but it also delves into Boeing's history and how a merger put so many people in danger all over the world.

The more I watched it the more gobsmacked I was, there are some seriously horrific revelations which just made my blood boil.

It's a one off feature length documentary and I'd highly recommend it. It will definitely make your blood boil with anger though.

 

[Angela Channing]

Thanks for the recommendation @pete lashmar, I think I might watch this tonight or tomorrow. I'll share my views once I've seen it.

 

[Ome]

Thanks for the recommendation @pete lashmar, I think I might watch this tonight or tomorrow. I'll share my views once I've seen it.

I’ve agreed with your post, then I questioned myself, knowing how long it takes me to watch something. We have about 8 programmes recorded on our Sky and then there is Netflix, Disney and Prime.

but I do hope to watch this in the next couple of days.l, seeing that it’s a one off.

 

[Angela Channing]

I’ve agreed with your post, then I questioned myself, knowing how long it takes me to watch something. We have about 8 programmes recorded on our Sky and then there is Netflix, Disney and Prime.

but I do hope to watch this in the next couple of days.l, seeing that it’s a one off.

It seems really interesting and I remember when the crashes happened so I will be fascinated to find out more about what happened behind the scenes.

When I'm made aware of a show that I want to watch, I have to watch it quickly before other things push it down my list of priorities. If I don't watch something within a week, there is a good chance it will be a few months (sometimes many months) until I get around to seeing it.

 

[Ome]

The more I watched it the more gobsmacked I was, there are some seriously horrific revelations which just made my blood boil.

We watched this last night, and you're not wrong. The anger I felt was off the chart, and the sadness for all those lives. Once again, human life is second best for money and profit. There should have been prison time life sentences to the people who knew the chances of this happening again were so high. Instead, the CEO gets to retire and is awarded $62 million. I felt sick afterwards.

The final result with no criminal charges is disgraceful, and I hope that this can be re-visited thanks to this documentary.

 

[pete lashmar]

We watched this last night, and you're not wrong. The anger I felt was off the chart, and the sadness for all those lives. Once again, human life is second best for money and profit. There should have been prison time life sentences to the people who knew the chances of this happening again were so high. Instead, the CEO gets to retire and is awarded $62 million. I felt sick afterwards.

The final result with no criminal charges is disgraceful, and I hope that this can be re-visited thanks to this documentary.

Exactly, by the time it ended and his retirement package was announced I sat there literally screaming at the TV. It was an horrific outcome for such a snide, horrible individual. I'm sure that the more people who watch this will bring about more reaction in the media. But yes, totally and utterly shocking what happened - and even worse that it has taken till now to tell this story.

Those poor family members who found out their loved ones died for the shareholders profits was the saddest thing I've witnessed in years.

 

[Ome]

Those poor family members who found out their loved ones died for the shareholders profits was the saddest thing I've witnessed in years

Absolutely! Also, to be told they couldn't bring the photos into the room because they were seen as protest cards which were their way of avoiding the fact these people didn't die in a tragic accident, they were murdered.


If I had my way, I would have those photo cards on the walls of their workshops and offices as a reminder of what they did.

 

[Angela Channing]

This was a fascinating documentary. I thought the first third was a bit mundane as it was mostly setting the scene and didn't really have much of note that wasn't widely reported in at the time. However, it really took off in the final 2 thirds. I went through a range of emotions including sadness and rage. I'm overly emotional at the best of time and the scene near the end showing the US Senate hearing into the crashes when Senator Blumenthal asked the families of the victims to stand up and hold their loved ones pictures, which forced the Boeing executives to look at them, was such a powerful image it had me close to tears.

It's criminal that the Boeing CEO wasn't put on trial for manslaughter and instead walked away with tens of millions of dollars in compensation from Boeing, which incidentally was about 50 times more than each family received from Boeing for causing the death of their loved ones.

This quote from the wife of the pilot of the Lion Air jet that crashed summed up the documentary for me:

"It's the corporate culture that they had built up. It was their greed. Are the profits more important than the human life?"

 

[pete lashmar]

This was a fascinating documentary. I thought the first third was a bit mundane as it was mostly setting the scene and didn't really have much of note that wasn't widely reported in at the time. However, it really took off in the final 2 thirds. I went through a range of emotions including sadness and rage. I'm overly emotional at the best of time and the scene near the end showing the US Senate hearing into the crashes when Senator Blumenthal asked the families of the victims to stand up and hold their loved ones pictures, which forced the Boeing executives to look at them, was such a powerful image it had me close to tears.

It's criminal that the Boeing CEO wasn't put on trial for manslaughter and instead walked away with tens of millions of dollars in compensation from Boeing, which incidentally was about 50 times more than each family received from Boeing for causing the death of their loved ones.

This quote from the wife of the pilot of the Lion Air jet that crashed summed up the documentary for me:

"It's the corporate culture that they had built up. It was their greed. Are the profits more important than the human life?"

So pleased you got to watch it and felt the rage. I can't think of another documentary that flips your emotions quite so much in the business world. I sincerely hope the reaction from people watching pushes the envelope on what Boeing did and makes them answer to the families in a full and proper way.

 

[Pamela_E]

WOW!!! This year has been such an eye opener with Governments, big business, police and the powerful getting away with terrible acts.

I feel like I have had my eyes closed for years.

I can't believe the guy featured is this doc is now in charge. These people care more about money than human life.

I will never understand how humans can prioritise money over the lives of people.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Reminds me of the infamous Ford Pinto scandal roughly half a century ago (which helped make Ralph Nader famous) in which Pinto gas tanks kept falling out of cars onto the street below and exploding, killing people. The problem could have been easily remedied by adding one additional strap to the gas tank at the cost of only 8 dollars per car, but Ford management did the math and determined that it would be less expensive to do nothing and just pay out settlements for any future incidents and the resulting deaths.