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45 years ago today, on Monday, 12 January 1981, DYNASTY premiered on ABC in America. The first 3-hour pilot for a series up until that time, it ranked a very respectable 11th place in the Nielsen ratings for that week.

Although the series wouldn't become a solid hit until later than fall, with ... well, you know...

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45 years ago today, on Monday, 12 January 1981, DYNASTY premiered on ABC in America. The first 3-hour pilot for a series up until that time, it ranked a very respectable 11th place in the Nielsen ratings for that week.

Although the series wouldn't become a solid hit until later than fall, with ... well, you know...

And as I recall, it was branded an ABC Movie Special as well, that extended maiden voyage.
 

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I guess that’s my evening line-up figured out for tonight. And we have the same calendar this year, so it’s also a Monday, January 12th. This might even spark a daily rewatch. :)

I recall when it was 30 years in 2011 Mama Shapiro wanted to do a Mad Men-esque 1960s prequel. Too bad we got CW instead. Though you know they would’ve messed up the 60s one.
 

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I recall when it was 30 years in 2011 Mama Shapiro wanted to do a Mad Men-esque 1960s prequel. Too bad we got CW instead. Though you know they would’ve messed up the 60s one.

Yes, Bob Pollock even ran their 2011 script past Paulsen. But we all snickered that it would never happen, the '60s prequel... Would it have been any good, and avoided the problems of the '80s original?

Who knows? But what a great opportunity, the would-be '60s prequel, to use one of those Mantovani-esque cascading-strings versions of the theme music (like The New London Symphony did in 1983, and should have been used for Season 4) to help convey the Eisenhower/Kennedy era.


Ignore the cast:


Naturally, the bottom-line-centric business codgers, concerned only with profits and faced with multiple options about how to proceed with a 2010s nuDYNASTY in the wake of nuDALLAS' initial success, chose the scenario least likely to please anybody: a remake, set in Atlanta, executed as a comedy, with a completely different cast --- the option least likely to pull in fans of the original show, attract new and younger fans, and, hence, most likely to create the least profits. (As the lowest-rated show in primetime television for five years, the nuDYNASTY would normally have run no more than 13 weeks, but a Netflix deal kept it on the air ten times longer than that).

So some people have no idea that it righteously bombed.
 

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Yes, Dynasty attracted 17,350,000 American households to watch the opening three hour episode. Just at the end of Jimmy Carter era.
 

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Yes, Dynasty attracted 17,350,000 American households to watch the opening three hour episode. Just at the end of Jimmy Carter era.

Yes, the tricky thing is when the Nielsen system switches "viewers" for "households." According to the records I could find, the DYNASTY pilot garnered a 19.0 rating (which you multiply by roughly 1.56, or 156%) and translates to ~30 million American viewers on 12 January 1981.

But the "viewers" and "households" get mixed up by the media quite often... When Larry Hagman died in November 2012, I recall grimacing when some outlets gushed over how "Who Shot JR?" drew "40 million viewers!" in America (which DALLAS attracted with any given episode during most of its run). The actual rating for the "Whodunnit?" episode of 21 November 1980 was something like a 53.3 (which translates into about 83 million viewers in the United States alone). So the mere '40 million" statistic was probably "households" -- but they didn't say that. And they probably didn't know that.

And there's the additional confusion about how many viewers makes up "a household," which changes. And then all these numbers get transposed in the telling over time.

Today, of course, such numbers are virtually impossible -- short of The Superbowl.


Oh, what almost was...

 
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I've told you before, you gotta simply write and produce your own version of DYNASTY. Just change the names of the characters and you won't be accused of copyright. ;) :lol:

But the casting -- there will never be the same casting.

Which is why we have to A.I. the original. One way or t'other.
 

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Yes, the tricky thing is when the Nielsen system switches "viewers" for "households." According to the records I could find, the DYNASTY pilot garnered a 19.0 rating (which you multiply by roughly 1.56, or 156%) and translates to ~30 million American viewers on 12 January 1981.

But the "viewers" and "households" get mixed up by the media quite often... When Larry Hagman died in November 2012, I recall grimacing when some outlets gushed over how "Who Shot JR?" drew "40 million viewers!" in America (which DALLAS attracted with any given episode during most of its run). The actual rating for the "Whodunnit?" episode of 21 November 1980 was something like a 53.3 (which translates into about 83 million viewers in the United States alone). So the mere '40 million" statistic was probably "households" -- but they didn't say that. And they probably didn't know that.

And there's the additional confusion about how many viewers makes up "a household," which changes. And then all these numbers get transposed in the telling over time.

Today, of course, such numbers are virtually impossible -- short of The Superbowl.


Oh, what almost was...

According to my sources, Dynasty premiere episode had rating 22,2 % households, share 32 % and was rated as a show No. 11/12 this week. I agree that a lot of people still mix households and viewers in their comments.

The most watched shows in the week ending January 18, 1981:
1. Dallas, rating 33,4 %,
2. 60 Minutes, rating 32,6 %,
3. Dukes of Hazzard, rating 27,8 %,
4. One Day At A Time, rating 25,3 %,
5. Little House On The Prairie, rating 24,2 %,
6. MASH, rating 23,9 % (aired at the same time slot as Dynasty),
7. Bob Hope Anniversary Special, rating 23,8 %,
8. Love Boat, rating 23,5 %,
9. Three's Company, rating 22,5 %,
10. Magnum, P. I., rating 22,3 %,
11.-12. Terror Among Us / Dynasty, 22,2 %.
 

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But the casting -- there will never be the same casting.
Excuses, excuses. I'd rather take new actors with an actually good script than wasted talent.

Besides, consider all of the parodies done over the years. Heck, consider all the fans who simply film themselves quoting certain scenes (I once saw a YouTube vid of two young black girls acting out the meeting between Alexis and Dominique; while they clearly weren't professionals, the fact that they were obviously having fun made it enjoyable to watch). Hell, I'd even go so far to say that one of the very few positives about NuDynasty was that it proved that new talent *could* move into these old roles - if only they had an ACTUALLY GOOD SCRIPT.

Which is why we have to A.I. the original. One way or t'other.
Oh, I recently decided to quit using A.I. because it came to my attention just how bad it is for the environment.
 

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Speaking of casting, having recently seen some original pilot images of Dynasty with George Peppard as Blake, I have to say: I’m very glad they ditched him.

I liked Peppard when he was young and pretty in Breakfast at Tiffany’s, but by the ’80s he felt far more like a guest star on Dallas than the patriarch Dynasty needed.

To be fair, a Season 1–style Blake would’ve suited him better than the saccharine grandpa the character quickly morphed into—but still, something was missing.

Most glaringly: his chemistry (or lack of it) with Linda Evans. Ironically, I could imagine him working opposite Angie Dickinson as Alexis. But then, I don’t even want to peek into a universe where Joan Collins didn’t get that role.

But the casting -- there will never be the same casting.

Which is why we have to A.I. the original. One way or t'other.

We might even finally see an episode of DYNASTIER. :)
 
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