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<blockquote data-quote="Gabriel Maxwell" data-source="post: 17789" data-attributes="member: 121"><p>That's the only way anything can be illegal, by being against the law. Of course, on top of that, I do have my own opinion which is in line with the anti-discrimination law.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In other words, you think the anti-discrimination law is wrong and businesses should be allowed to discriminate against any customer they please?</p><p></p><p>Does your opinion extend to employees? Because they're also covered by the same law. Should businesses be allowed to ask their employees (or prospective employees) whether they're gay or married and then, for example, nor hire them or fire them for being gay or give them preferential treatment (higher salary, special benefits, etc.) for being representatives of a traditional heterosexual family?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Religion is irrational belief by definition. I'm sure they don't think so, but they're the ones who have something to prove (and never do) and not the other way around.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's the whole point. They're free to practice whatever they want in their own home, but when they bring that into their business, and they of course always bring it in a discriminatory manner, then there's a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, those would be valid reasons to refuse service.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But if you don't have a definitive line of finished products and you, under normal circumstances, allow almost all of your customers to order a custom-made product, by refusing to fulfil a certain order you are effectively refusing service to the specific customers who placed that order.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gabriel Maxwell, post: 17789, member: 121"] That's the only way anything can be illegal, by being against the law. Of course, on top of that, I do have my own opinion which is in line with the anti-discrimination law. In other words, you think the anti-discrimination law is wrong and businesses should be allowed to discriminate against any customer they please? Does your opinion extend to employees? Because they're also covered by the same law. Should businesses be allowed to ask their employees (or prospective employees) whether they're gay or married and then, for example, nor hire them or fire them for being gay or give them preferential treatment (higher salary, special benefits, etc.) for being representatives of a traditional heterosexual family? Religion is irrational belief by definition. I'm sure they don't think so, but they're the ones who have something to prove (and never do) and not the other way around. And that's the whole point. They're free to practice whatever they want in their own home, but when they bring that into their business, and they of course always bring it in a discriminatory manner, then there's a problem. Yes, those would be valid reasons to refuse service. But if you don't have a definitive line of finished products and you, under normal circumstances, allow almost all of your customers to order a custom-made product, by refusing to fulfil a certain order you are effectively refusing service to the specific customers who placed that order. [/QUOTE]
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