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They said that at his funeral --- what the hell were they talking about??

 

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JR was right about a lot of things


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IE Clayton was an outsider, interloper, carpetbagger.

It was a disgrace that Clayton was given half of Southfork

He was right to protest the Southfork giveaway to Garrison

He was right that Pam interfered too much

He was right to be suspicious of Jamie, although his treatment of her was part of the problem

Jock's painting should have remained at Southfork - Jock saved the property.

Gary lacked a certain Ewing strength

Bobby has handed a lot of things that JR had to earn

Ray was a good foreman, not a businessman

Cliff Barnes was a thorn in the Ewing's side

The Asian oil deal was risky, but it did increase the Ewings' wealth and he does deserve some credit for it, despite his approach


There is more, but that suffices for now
 

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JR was right about a lot of things


small sample

IE Clayton was an outsider, interloper, carpetbagger.

It was a disgrace that Clayton was given half of Southfork

He was right to protest the Southfork giveaway to Garrison

He was right that Pam interfered too much

He was right to be suspicious of Jamie, although his treatment of her was part of the problem

Jock's painting should have remained at Southfork - Jock saved the property.

Gary lacked a certain Ewing strength

Bobby has handed a lot of things that JR had to earn

Ray was a good foreman, not a businessman

Cliff Barnes was a thorn in the Ewing's side

The Asian oil deal was risky, but it did increase the Ewings' wealth and he does deserve some credit for it, despite his approach


There is more, but that suffices for now

Was that what they meant?
 

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It was very difficult not to root for JR, however much we disliked or hated him.

He did some awful, terrible things yet somehow I always managed to feel a bit sorry for him. He had that knack of making everyone else appear in the wrong and was able to convey "little boy lost" too easily.

That's how Larry made JR so special I guess, what a gift!
 

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JR was right to shut down that oil well which made Cliff Barnes a partner of the Ewings. Given how Cliff made their lives hell including trying to send Jock to prison for murder, JR was in the right here.

And that was one of the top producing wells at the time. He’d actually rather shut it down completely and lose the profits than share in those profits with Cliff. I think that speaks volumes about the man, and also about Jock for siding with him without hesitation. I have a hard time saying he was wrong if he felt that strongly about it.
 

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And that was one of the top producing wells at the time. He’d actually rather shut it down completely and lose the profits than share in those profits with Cliff. I think that speaks volumes about the man, and also about Jock for siding with him without hesitation. I have a hard time saying he was wrong if he felt that strongly about it.
If it had been Digger who came into JR's office with the document that would have been OK since he signed it and had no animosity toward the entire family just Jock.
 

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It was very difficult not to root for JR, however much we disliked or hated him.

He did some awful, terrible things yet somehow I always managed to feel a bit sorry for him. He had that knack of making everyone else appear in the wrong and was able to convey "little boy lost" too easily.

That's how Larry made JR so special I guess, what a gift!
JR was also right that Clayton knew his sister was unstable and should have told the Ewing about it.
JR was right that Bobby and Ray also had responsibility for Walt Driscoll
JR did not steal from Rebecca Wentworth. Cliff did, and the consequences were Cliff's fault.
JR was right Miss Ellie was tarnishing Jock's memory by challenging the will on the basis of mental competence
 

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If it had been Digger who came into JR's office with the document that would have been OK since he signed it and had no animosity toward the entire family just Jock.
I think it probably would’ve ended up going the same way anyway, the reason being once Cliff found out about the document he would’ve badgered the entire family until he gave them no choice but to shut the well down. I do get what you’re saying though.
 

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J.R. told Bobby he was going to destroy Cliff no matter how Jock's trial turned out. Bobby told him he'd have to get in line behind him.
Shutting down Ewing 23 should've thus been backed up by him.

There were times when Bobby was a temper tantrum throwing baby. He actually growled at Cliff when he believed he'd kidnapped John Ross (known at the time as Little John and Baby John).
 

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It was very difficult not to root for JR, however much we disliked or hated him.

He did some awful, terrible things yet somehow I always managed to feel a bit sorry for him. He had that knack of making everyone else appear in the wrong and was able to convey "little boy lost" too easily.

That's how Larry made JR so special I guess, what a gift!
I think there were times when JR's adversaries were also corrupt, and that JR had to be just as ruthless.
The Cartel members, Cliff, McKay, Wendell just to name a few.
Bobby and Ray played just as JR did in the Walt Driscoll matter
There were others, and even some of the "good" guys were not so good sometimes.

Jock raised JR to be as such, Miss Ellie enabled it, and the Ewings
benefitted from it
 

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J.R. told Bobby he was going to destroy Cliff no matter how Jock's trial turned out. Bobby told him he'd have to get in line behind him.
Shutting down Ewing 23 should've thus been backed up by him.

There were times when Bobby was a temper tantrum throwing baby. He actually growled at Cliff when he believed he'd kidnapped John Ross (known at the time as Little John and Baby John).
Those were the reasons I did not much like Bobby at all. His hot temper and his lack of loyalty to his own family over a man who hates them all. Bobby and the rest of the family should not have cared what JR did to Cliff. I will say in a later season, Bobby does say to Cliff, "I can understand why my brother destroys you every chance he gets."

I would not want to be near someone like this. I remember the first scene between Cliff and Bobby and Bobby lunges toward him in front Pamela who did not have a reaction.

That scene where JR actually throws a punch at Bobby, JR was right to yell at Pamela who had taken his son. If anything, she got off easy with just a tongue lashing. I would imagine many in JR's shoes would have done far worst to her.
 
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