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<blockquote data-quote="Spells &amp; Karma" data-source="post: 401505" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>Overall I'm fine with changing it up, but I'm glad the series began with the version it did (and of course, since it's been pointed out that the character and series evolved, that's the only one it <u><em>could</em></u> have started with).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even though I'm not there yet, I'll trust that this is true since your headcanon is always impeccable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah well. I'll adjust my expectations to roll with that one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see why you'd make that comparison. It didn't consciously register with me until I saw them together and the similarities were so striking I found myself wondering why I hadn't noticed earlier.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh - I don't think I knew that about Dennis Patrick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I discovered this after watching the <em>Howard's Girl</em> episode, dropped a mention upthread and then promptly forgot about it until I read your post. Which means I missed watching his next episode with that in mind.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I also got confused and spent the school reunion episode thinking he was meant to be the <u><em>other</em></u> brother Paul (who he'd also played before).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a selling point for me. I'm curious to see where it goes. As previously mentioned, I'm not sure how I'll feel about the more significant cast changes (especially the eventual departure of Rhoda), but it sounds as though it doesn't go to pot as a result of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with every word of this.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, Lisa looks very familiar to me. I could have sworn I've seen her in other things but I don't believe I've seen anything listed on her IMDb page apart from <em>MTM</em> and (possibly) <em>Airport</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can easily picture him in the role, and I think that could have worked. Ultimately, though, I think they ended up with the perfect actor for the role in Ted Knight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aha. I was wondering why Nancy seemed to familiar to me. Looking at her IMDb I'd also know her from <em>Murder By Death</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh wow.</p><p></p><p>On the subject of the opening titles, I was reading that <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story-iconic-mary-tyler-moore-show-opening/story?id=45052349" target="_blank">Mary was later (re)introduced to the woman in the blue scarf</a>, glowering at her in the background of that freeze frame:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(There's a video via the link as well, but I had to stop a couple of minutes in because the subject turned to the last scene.) </p><p></p><p>That moment, by the way, reminds me of the similar one we'd get in the<em> Cagney & Lacey</em> opening, with red blouse woman and her husband turning to stare at Tyne and Sharon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is great. I think it's possibly a little funnier for being done in one shot. It gives an immediacy that really sells it, and shows what great chemistry there is between Mary and Ed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spells & Karma, post: 401505, member: 23"] Overall I'm fine with changing it up, but I'm glad the series began with the version it did (and of course, since it's been pointed out that the character and series evolved, that's the only one it [U][I]could[/I][/U] have started with). Even though I'm not there yet, I'll trust that this is true since your headcanon is always impeccable. Ah well. I'll adjust my expectations to roll with that one. I can see why you'd make that comparison. It didn't consciously register with me until I saw them together and the similarities were so striking I found myself wondering why I hadn't noticed earlier. Oh - I don't think I knew that about Dennis Patrick. I discovered this after watching the [I]Howard's Girl[/I] episode, dropped a mention upthread and then promptly forgot about it until I read your post. Which means I missed watching his next episode with that in mind. Incidentally, I also got confused and spent the school reunion episode thinking he was meant to be the [U][I]other[/I][/U] brother Paul (who he'd also played before). This is a selling point for me. I'm curious to see where it goes. As previously mentioned, I'm not sure how I'll feel about the more significant cast changes (especially the eventual departure of Rhoda), but it sounds as though it doesn't go to pot as a result of them. I agree with every word of this. Incidentally, Lisa looks very familiar to me. I could have sworn I've seen her in other things but I don't believe I've seen anything listed on her IMDb page apart from [I]MTM[/I] and (possibly) [I]Airport[/I]. I can easily picture him in the role, and I think that could have worked. Ultimately, though, I think they ended up with the perfect actor for the role in Ted Knight. Aha. I was wondering why Nancy seemed to familiar to me. Looking at her IMDb I'd also know her from [I]Murder By Death[/I]. Oh wow. On the subject of the opening titles, I was reading that [URL='https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story-iconic-mary-tyler-moore-show-opening/story?id=45052349']Mary was later (re)introduced to the woman in the blue scarf[/URL], glowering at her in the background of that freeze frame: (There's a video via the link as well, but I had to stop a couple of minutes in because the subject turned to the last scene.) That moment, by the way, reminds me of the similar one we'd get in the[I] Cagney & Lacey[/I] opening, with red blouse woman and her husband turning to stare at Tyne and Sharon. This is great. I think it's possibly a little funnier for being done in one shot. It gives an immediacy that really sells it, and shows what great chemistry there is between Mary and Ed. [/QUOTE]
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