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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustard" data-source="post: 63089" data-attributes="member: 46"><p>Cliff is around Bobby's age rather than J.R.'s. Cliff looks considerably older than he is, yet some people are like that. Cliff lived a lot of Digger's struggles and bitterness, and even went further still. That can age a person. As a real life example, I can think of the late British actor, John Thaw, who always looked older than he was. In 1949, when John was 7 and his younger brother Ray was 5, their mother left their father, leaving her children behind. John's father worked as a long distance lorry driver, so John was regularly left to look after himself and his younger brother. John was drinking alcohol and smoking heavily from the age of 12. When John was in his early 20s, he looked well into his 30s. When John was in his 30s, he looked well into his 40s. When John was in his mid 40s, he could pass for 60. When John died of cancer in 2002 at the age of 60, he could have passed for 80. Cliff Barnes comes from a similar stock.</p></blockquote><p></p>