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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jock Ewing Fan" data-source="post: 439215" data-attributes="member: 40536">Valid points, and worth considering. I think that with regard to HV, Ellie might have has some empathy for JR being missing and finding out later what happened, maybe offering some reassurance, etc, like a normal mother might.Yes Rebecca was flawed.  Not trying to say that Rebecca had no baggage, ALL the characters did. I was trying to say that this was as close as I could remember someone calling out Ellie.</blockquote>