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<blockquote data-quote="Kenny Coyote" data-source="post: 172752" data-attributes="member: 102">What you&#039;re posting is not entirely, or even mostly &quot;indisputable facts.&quot; It&#039;s your opinion and speculation for the most part. Let&#039;s take a look at your &quot;facts.&quot;&quot;01.&nbsp; Duffy’s ego was erroneously inflated.&nbsp;&nbsp; He though he was going to be a huge star and it didn’t happen.&quot;Was his ego inflated?&nbsp; By what standard?&nbsp; It&#039;s true he didn&#039;t become a movie star as he&#039;d hoped. That&#039;s a fact.&quot;02.&nbsp; His return and the dream season resolution destroyed the show beyond repair.&quot;I agree that allowing him to return hurt the show because Bobby was already dead, but who had the ultimate authority on making that happen or saying &quot;No, we can&#039;t have you come back.&quot;&nbsp; Duffy didn&#039;t have that authority. Blame the executives at the company who had the authority to say no to that and didn&#039;t.&nbsp; Who would have turned down a the ton of money they were offering him to return? Was it just bringing him back to the show that destroyed Dallas, or do you think there may have been other factors involved such as, the sub-par quality of the scripts and other people of value to the show leaving?&quot;03.&nbsp; VP’s departure hurt the show WAY more than Duffy’s ever could.&quot;In your opinion it might have. It&#039;s certainly not an &quot;indisputable fact.&quot;&nbsp; I never saw Pam as more important to the show than Bobby. VP left at a time when the quality of the writing had dropped substantially. Her leaving the show coincides with that drop in quality of the writing but it&#039;s not the cause of it.&quot;04.&nbsp; Hagman and Duffy’s adolescent pranks and immature behavior, as well as Gray’s bizarre insistence that they all hang out 24/7 clashed with VP’s stance that it was simply a job.&quot;&quot;Immature behavior&quot; by what standard? It&#039;s your opinion again. Were you even there to witness that behavior or did you find out about it maybe second or third hand?Did Gray really have a &quot;bizarre insistence&quot; that she spend down time on the set with her friends or is it likely she was just a social person? How social she was is her choice isn&#039;t it? Why criticize her for it and say it&#039;s bizarre?&nbsp; Suppose another person were less social and preferred being alone during down time on the set. Would you criticize that person just as much, describing him or her as bizarrely anti-social or would you give that person a pass because that behavior more closely aligns with your personal preference of how people ought to socialize on the set, or maybe just because you have a bias towards him or her?&quot;05.&nbsp; Jealousy that VP did so well post-Dallas while the others did not.&quot;How is it a fact that all of them or any of them were jealous of VP?&nbsp; One fact you did state, or allude to, is that Patrick Duffy didn&#039;t become the big movie star he&#039;d hoped to when he left Dallas. Well guess what, Victoria Principal didn&#039;t become the big movie star she&#039;d hoped to become when she left Dallas either. What movie successful or not, was she in, that ever even made it to the movie theaters after she left Dallas? So, what is there to even be jealous of?&nbsp; A failed marriage? Having no children?&nbsp; A career in informercials?&nbsp; Wow, those are some things to aspire to aren&#039;t they? Does any of that make you jealous?&nbsp; It certainly doesn&#039;t make me jealous, but the bottom line is whether they were jealous of her or not is of no consequence to the show this forum was made for discussing. Sarah has already made it clear that she&#039;d rather not have gossip on this forum. So why not cooperate with her instead of persisting in trying to continue what she politely asked you to stop by trying to pass off your personal opinion and speculation as being nothing but &quot;indisputable facts&quot;?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kenny Coyote, post: 172752, member: 102"] What you're posting is not entirely, or even mostly "indisputable facts." It's your opinion and speculation for the most part. Let's take a look at your "facts." "01. Duffy’s ego was erroneously inflated. He though he was going to be a huge star and it didn’t happen." Was his ego inflated? By what standard? It's true he didn't become a movie star as he'd hoped. That's a fact. "02. His return and the dream season resolution destroyed the show beyond repair." I agree that allowing him to return hurt the show because Bobby was already dead, but who had the ultimate authority on making that happen or saying "No, we can't have you come back." Duffy didn't have that authority. Blame the executives at the company who had the authority to say no to that and didn't. Who would have turned down a the ton of money they were offering him to return? Was it just bringing him back to the show that destroyed Dallas, or do you think there may have been other factors involved such as, the sub-par quality of the scripts and other people of value to the show leaving? "03. VP’s departure hurt the show WAY more than Duffy’s ever could." In your opinion it might have. It's certainly not an "indisputable fact." I never saw Pam as more important to the show than Bobby. VP left at a time when the quality of the writing had dropped substantially. Her leaving the show coincides with that drop in quality of the writing but it's not the cause of it. "04. Hagman and Duffy’s adolescent pranks and immature behavior, as well as Gray’s bizarre insistence that they all hang out 24/7 clashed with VP’s stance that it was simply a job." "Immature behavior" by what standard? It's your opinion again. Were you even there to witness that behavior or did you find out about it maybe second or third hand? Did Gray really have a "bizarre insistence" that she spend down time on the set with her friends or is it likely she was just a social person? How social she was is her choice isn't it? Why criticize her for it and say it's bizarre? Suppose another person were less social and preferred being alone during down time on the set. Would you criticize that person just as much, describing him or her as bizarrely anti-social or would you give that person a pass because that behavior more closely aligns with your personal preference of how people ought to socialize on the set, or maybe just because you have a bias towards him or her? "05. Jealousy that VP did so well post-Dallas while the others did not." How is it a fact that all of them or any of them were jealous of VP? One fact you did state, or allude to, is that Patrick Duffy didn't become the big movie star he'd hoped to when he left Dallas. Well guess what, Victoria Principal didn't become the big movie star she'd hoped to become when she left Dallas either. What movie successful or not, was she in, that ever even made it to the movie theaters after she left Dallas? So, what is there to even be jealous of? A failed marriage? Having no children? A career in informercials? Wow, those are some things to aspire to aren't they? Does any of that make you jealous? It certainly doesn't make me jealous, but the bottom line is whether they were jealous of her or not is of no consequence to the show this forum was made for discussing. Sarah has already made it clear that she'd rather not have gossip on this forum. So why not cooperate with her instead of persisting in trying to continue what she politely asked you to stop by trying to pass off your personal opinion and speculation as being nothing but "indisputable facts"? [/QUOTE]

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