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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 36378" data-attributes="member: 35">But is it not malevolent interference to leak questions to a candidate, to bury the debates during football, or to consider attacking your opponents religion?&nbsp; Maybe it seems more frightening when a foreign power does it, but Democrats and Republicans alike are not above much more direct intrusions into the affairs of other nations.&nbsp; We bomb, we nation build, and Hillary herself said we should have prevented elections in Palestine unless we were able to control the outcome.&nbsp; I hate bringing her up as much as you all hate listening to it, but there are times when there are relevant parallels at hand.&nbsp; If something like that were to come to light, I would agree with you 100%.When Trump hinted that he wouldn&#039;t accept the election results if he lost, Hillary said “I have to admit, you know, when we were both asked the question, I assumed that he would say what everybody has always said, which is, hey of course, because to say you won’t respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy.&quot;&nbsp; Trump was being his typical petulant self by suggesting he wouldn&#039;t have accepted the election results if he lost, but this is an instance where I believe Hillary was right.&nbsp; A Trump presidency is far from ideal to say the least, but we ultimately have to deal with the fact that the electoral college exists for the time being.Persistent bitterness over Bernie?&nbsp; You bet.&nbsp; Because for a year, I got to listen to Hillary supporters tell me that Bernie is too old, too socialist, even too Jewish to win.&nbsp; I got called a sexist &quot;Bernie bro,&quot; then was told I supported Jill Stein because I don&#039;t like &quot;strong, empowered&quot; women like Hillary (which sounds like misogyny towards Stein).&nbsp; I then saw many Democrats remain silent over the DNC&#039;s collusion, while going on about Russia&#039;s hacks.So yeah, I&#039;m admittedly bitter, and it has influenced my posts here.&nbsp; I expected more from the Democratic Party than that, and I feel they have taken too many pages out of the Republicans&#039; playbook.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 36378, member: 35"] But is it not malevolent interference to leak questions to a candidate, to bury the debates during football, or to consider attacking your opponents religion? Maybe it seems more frightening when a foreign power does it, but Democrats and Republicans alike are not above much more direct intrusions into the affairs of other nations. We bomb, we nation build, and Hillary herself said we should have prevented elections in Palestine unless we were able to control the outcome. I hate bringing her up as much as you all hate listening to it, but there are times when there are relevant parallels at hand. If something like that were to come to light, I would agree with you 100%. When Trump hinted that he wouldn't accept the election results if he lost, Hillary said “I have to admit, you know, when we were both asked the question, I assumed that he would say what everybody has always said, which is, hey of course, because to say you won’t respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy." Trump was being his typical petulant self by suggesting he wouldn't have accepted the election results if he lost, but this is an instance where I believe Hillary was right. A Trump presidency is far from ideal to say the least, but we ultimately have to deal with the fact that the electoral college exists for the time being. Persistent bitterness over Bernie? You bet. Because for a year, I got to listen to Hillary supporters tell me that Bernie is too old, too socialist, even too Jewish to win. I got called a sexist "Bernie bro," then was told I supported Jill Stein because I don't like "strong, empowered" women like Hillary (which sounds like misogyny towards Stein). I then saw many Democrats remain silent over the DNC's collusion, while going on about Russia's hacks. So yeah, I'm admittedly bitter, and it has influenced my posts here. I expected more from the Democratic Party than that, and I feel they have taken too many pages out of the Republicans' playbook. [/QUOTE]

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