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<blockquote data-quote="Daniel Avery" data-source="post: 171255" data-attributes="member: 27"><p><span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)"><p style="text-align: left">In one of the previous seasons they actually had Wyatt clean up and go sober. They even paired him romantically with his substance-abuse counselor. It was the only time he showed promise...and someone on the writing staff decided to scuttle that whole arc and have him go right back to drugs. </p><p></span></p><p>If Wyatt were making an effort to overcome his addiction, or even <em>expressed the wish</em> to overcome it, I think Jeffery would offer his support and/or assistance. Unfortunately Wyatt is too wrapped up in blaming his parents for everything wrong in his life to even notice that he's an adult, much less notice that he is his own worst enemy. Like I said earlier, he is just as passive-aggressive as his mother, so even as he had/has the means to get out of his hopeless situation, he stayed and continued to speed along the path to self-destruction---mostly to punish his parents. The whole back-story they've developed (he was sexually abused as a child at summer camp by a priest, apparently) in an effort to explain his addictive personality and self-loathing could be explored further, but I have no idea if the show wants to go so 'deep' with Wyatt. Obviously they can give an emotional story like that to a lead actress like Crystal Fox (and she has had several dumped on her over the years), but Aaron O'Connell is no Crystal Fox.</p><p></p><p>Veronica is indeed well into "irredeemable" territory, whether Tyler Perry wants to believe it or not. Making her too smart for the room (not making mistakes in her revenge plots and cover-ups) and now seemingly physically invulnerable (she's been run off the road, pushed off balconies, drowned, etc.) ventures into the sort of anti-MarySue territory that makes people start to fall out of love with her antics. She needs to be shown in genuine jeopardy, in genuine fear for her life or something similar once in a while just to keep her from becoming too much of a cartoon. I thought we were going to get that when the FBI investigators seemed not to be dropping the investigation into her planting the bomb that killed Erica (and almost killed <em>Federal Judge</em> David), but I haven't seen any movement on that. There was a curious (but thoughtful) scene with her maid Alice, who'd finally had enough of Veronica's constant abuse and dismissive attitude. When Alice announced she was quitting, she pointed out that Veronica ought not be so quick to dismiss the "little people" like her (Alice), because they see things...and <em>know</em> things...and Veronica ought to realize that the "little people" can easily be the downfall of people who think they are better than everyone else. It was a nifty little seed they planted that said Alice (or some other person Veronica treated horribly, one of the 'have nots') could very easily bring her down if they spoke to the right people. Time will tell if that was foreshadowing or if it was just filler. When Kathryn chased her through the mansion wielding a knife for an entire episode, we saw Veronica at her most "mortal" and made it an even match--and much more exciting even if we knew neither woman was going to be going anywhere.</p><p></p><p></p><p>He burned down the "first" Cryer mansion when they switched studios; I have to say I liked that other mansion more than the current one, although it looks much more like a mansion that would exist in Savannah. The original had "Dunwoody" or "Buckhead" (Atlanta) written all over it. But the hotel won't be going anywhere, I'll assume. Hanna is supposedly going to be working there in some kind of management position in their housekeeping offices. Kathryn offered her the job over a year ago (our time) but of course that's like...three days ago their time. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> Anyway, she mentioned going to work there in the most recent episode so they obviously remember it. They could have Benny take a job there too...he hasn't had a proper job since the tow-truck business went tits-up. If the Three R's are still in hiding from the FBI, Benny might claim one of their jobs.</p><p></p><p>It occurred to me last night that the show made a bit of a goof by saying that Jeffery comes up in Justin's records as his "next of kin". We met Justin's mother, Pearl (a kind of ditzy, casual bigot who was Candace's neighbor) and his ex-wife (who was his current wife then). If Justin's lying in a hospital bed, beaten to a pulp, you'd think Jeffery or maybe Madison would contact his mother and urge her to step in. Hell, if he'd tell her half the stuff he just told Madison, she could have him placed in a psychiatric facility to work out his homicidal/suicidal/obsessive tendencies. His ex-wife (a Judge) would probably sign the papers to have him committed once they learn he tried to blow his head off. I guess they need to keep the actor on the show rather than send his character away since he and Tika Sumpter are an item.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daniel Avery, post: 171255, member: 27"] [COLOR=rgb(20, 20, 20)][LEFT]In one of the previous seasons they actually had Wyatt clean up and go sober. They even paired him romantically with his substance-abuse counselor. It was the only time he showed promise...and someone on the writing staff decided to scuttle that whole arc and have him go right back to drugs. [/LEFT][/COLOR] If Wyatt were making an effort to overcome his addiction, or even [I]expressed the wish[/I] to overcome it, I think Jeffery would offer his support and/or assistance. Unfortunately Wyatt is too wrapped up in blaming his parents for everything wrong in his life to even notice that he's an adult, much less notice that he is his own worst enemy. Like I said earlier, he is just as passive-aggressive as his mother, so even as he had/has the means to get out of his hopeless situation, he stayed and continued to speed along the path to self-destruction---mostly to punish his parents. The whole back-story they've developed (he was sexually abused as a child at summer camp by a priest, apparently) in an effort to explain his addictive personality and self-loathing could be explored further, but I have no idea if the show wants to go so 'deep' with Wyatt. Obviously they can give an emotional story like that to a lead actress like Crystal Fox (and she has had several dumped on her over the years), but Aaron O'Connell is no Crystal Fox. Veronica is indeed well into "irredeemable" territory, whether Tyler Perry wants to believe it or not. Making her too smart for the room (not making mistakes in her revenge plots and cover-ups) and now seemingly physically invulnerable (she's been run off the road, pushed off balconies, drowned, etc.) ventures into the sort of anti-MarySue territory that makes people start to fall out of love with her antics. She needs to be shown in genuine jeopardy, in genuine fear for her life or something similar once in a while just to keep her from becoming too much of a cartoon. I thought we were going to get that when the FBI investigators seemed not to be dropping the investigation into her planting the bomb that killed Erica (and almost killed [I]Federal Judge[/I] David), but I haven't seen any movement on that. There was a curious (but thoughtful) scene with her maid Alice, who'd finally had enough of Veronica's constant abuse and dismissive attitude. When Alice announced she was quitting, she pointed out that Veronica ought not be so quick to dismiss the "little people" like her (Alice), because they see things...and [I]know[/I] things...and Veronica ought to realize that the "little people" can easily be the downfall of people who think they are better than everyone else. It was a nifty little seed they planted that said Alice (or some other person Veronica treated horribly, one of the 'have nots') could very easily bring her down if they spoke to the right people. Time will tell if that was foreshadowing or if it was just filler. When Kathryn chased her through the mansion wielding a knife for an entire episode, we saw Veronica at her most "mortal" and made it an even match--and much more exciting even if we knew neither woman was going to be going anywhere. He burned down the "first" Cryer mansion when they switched studios; I have to say I liked that other mansion more than the current one, although it looks much more like a mansion that would exist in Savannah. The original had "Dunwoody" or "Buckhead" (Atlanta) written all over it. But the hotel won't be going anywhere, I'll assume. Hanna is supposedly going to be working there in some kind of management position in their housekeeping offices. Kathryn offered her the job over a year ago (our time) but of course that's like...three days ago their time. :eek: Anyway, she mentioned going to work there in the most recent episode so they obviously remember it. They could have Benny take a job there too...he hasn't had a proper job since the tow-truck business went tits-up. If the Three R's are still in hiding from the FBI, Benny might claim one of their jobs. It occurred to me last night that the show made a bit of a goof by saying that Jeffery comes up in Justin's records as his "next of kin". We met Justin's mother, Pearl (a kind of ditzy, casual bigot who was Candace's neighbor) and his ex-wife (who was his current wife then). If Justin's lying in a hospital bed, beaten to a pulp, you'd think Jeffery or maybe Madison would contact his mother and urge her to step in. Hell, if he'd tell her half the stuff he just told Madison, she could have him placed in a psychiatric facility to work out his homicidal/suicidal/obsessive tendencies. His ex-wife (a Judge) would probably sign the papers to have him committed once they learn he tried to blow his head off. I guess they need to keep the actor on the show rather than send his character away since he and Tika Sumpter are an item. [/QUOTE]
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