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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson" data-source="post: 329375" data-attributes="member: 5079">Congrats on your persistence.&nbsp; I gave up on IRON FIST in season one; not only didn&#039;t I watch S2, I&#039;m not sure I even knew it existed.&nbsp;&nbsp; As noted, I don&#039;t have strong specific memories of these Netflix shows, but broadly speaking our opinions have aligned.&nbsp; I liked DAREDEVIL and JESSICA JONES the most;&nbsp; thought THE DEFENDERS and THE PUNISHER were enjoyable; kinda-sorta liked LUKE CAGE, S1 much more than S2; and lost interest in IRON FIST almost immediately.&nbsp; &nbsp; I think these Netflix shows were cranked out too fast and some of them suffered from not being developed enough.With some broad ponderings on the landscape of TV, it seems to me we&#039;ve come full circle in quality.&nbsp; For most of its history, American TV has been a wasteland of rigid formula, driven by the necessity of filling network schedules with shows with the broadest appeal possible.&nbsp; About a decade or so ago most of those norms started to break down; TV was somewhat niche, adventurous and cinematic.&nbsp; &nbsp; And now, in the age of streaming, we&#039;re right back; the streaming services need to fill an insatiable demand for &quot;content&quot;.&nbsp; If the biggest failing of shows in the old network age was staleness, now it seems to be shows feel half-baked.&nbsp; So many modern shows have interesting ideas and ambitions, but those usually feel unfulfilled.Which is how IRON FIST seemed; there were interesting elements, but it didn&#039;t seem to be well developed or fleshed out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson, post: 329375, member: 5079"] Congrats on your persistence. I gave up on IRON FIST in season one; not only didn't I watch S2, I'm not sure I even knew it existed. As noted, I don't have strong specific memories of these Netflix shows, but broadly speaking our opinions have aligned. I liked DAREDEVIL and JESSICA JONES the most; thought THE DEFENDERS and THE PUNISHER were enjoyable; kinda-sorta liked LUKE CAGE, S1 much more than S2; and lost interest in IRON FIST almost immediately. I think these Netflix shows were cranked out too fast and some of them suffered from not being developed enough. With some broad ponderings on the landscape of TV, it seems to me we've come full circle in quality. For most of its history, American TV has been a wasteland of rigid formula, driven by the necessity of filling network schedules with shows with the broadest appeal possible. About a decade or so ago most of those norms started to break down; TV was somewhat niche, adventurous and cinematic. And now, in the age of streaming, we're right back; the streaming services need to fill an insatiable demand for "content". If the biggest failing of shows in the old network age was staleness, now it seems to be shows feel half-baked. So many modern shows have interesting ideas and ambitions, but those usually feel unfulfilled. Which is how IRON FIST seemed; there were interesting elements, but it didn't seem to be well developed or fleshed out. [/QUOTE]

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