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Should I just skip the dream season?

Alison Carr

Telly Talk Active Member
I'm at that point...I have seen Bobby die at the hands of Katherine Wentworth, so do I skip the dream season? would it work if I went straight to season 10? I presume it will all flow a lot more naturally if I do that. I need guidance lol!
 

James from London

International Treasure
Both ways work. If you've never seen the dream it's worth sitting through it to get the full effect of Pam waking up and Bobby saying, "None of that happened." If you have seen it before, then skipping it is all kinds of interesting too. Everyone's suddenly got different hairstyles, but what's new?
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Enthusiast
Skip it, not because dream season is bad, but I'd like to know how you feel with no dream season in mind. Maybe I would have liked season 10 more if I hadn't watched season 9. You could watch dream season after you watched the original show, because two reunion movies are dreams (or whatever), too.
 
@Darren Chivers - Absolutely Not, please dont skip it

i wrote this is another post asking the same and still think the same today

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I would say dont skip it at all and the first 12 episodes are really good

Pamela / VP has never looked more stunning and the Oil barons ball is a great one.
Linda Gray did her best acting this season
Susan Howard and Steve Kanaly gave wonderful performances and best of all BBG was back as momma and the woodentop was no more

I loved the early dream season, it did get a bit silly later on with Angelica Nero, GRace, Nicholas, Emerald mines etc but you can happily whizz thro those scenes and the final 3 episodes are great and it ends with a wedding, explosion and a shower!

You have to watch it even if some is at FWD

As much as i loved Pat D, I didnt miss him that much as Id rather have BBG back in Dallas and I liked Pam and Mark together.

Its got a great rodeo, Oil Barons ball, SF and Dallas look great and its the last season before it goes onto cheap film.
 

Grangehill1

Telly Talk Fan
Skip it.
My last rewatch I stopped watching during Swansong with Ray and Donna by the pool and then went straight into Return to Camelot.

It still doesn’t flow quite as well as you’d want it to (bad picture quality, terrible hair and fashions and out of nowhere the oil business is in terrible trouble) BUT... you avoid the crushing disappointment of realising 31 episodes has been a dream.

Skip it and then watch the dream separately another time
 

tommie

Telly Talk Hero
I honestly always skip it. There are some good stuff in season 9 (especially the first part before they seemingly started messing with it), but it's just frustrating sitting through 30+ episodes and only to realise it didn't really matter.
 

Angela Channing

Telly Talk Veteran
Nooooooooooo! Don't skip it! The dream season had some great Dallas storylines and scenes: Sue Ellen alcoholism leaving here on skid row, Pam and JR locking horns over Ewing Oil and even the Dimitri Marinos nonsense is had some great moments. I would suggest skipping seasons 11 to 14 instead as season 10 was the last great one in the show's run.
 

Alison Carr

Telly Talk Active Member
I wanted to try it and see how the flow worked so I skipped it! I will go back and enjoy the dream on it's own at some point.

I think it does flow, it kind of all makes sense if you can get over the fact everyone ages considerably overnight and baby Christopher is far from a baby now having aged several years! Suddenly we are plunged into an oil crisis bit things happen quickly in Dallas so I can accept that.

I love this version of the theme tune, the one where it has that mini interlude segment over Donna and Ray's credits. How poor Jennilee Harrison was never given an opening shot is a real shame for her time on the show.

I guess what this does mean is the search for Mark Grayson that took place in season 8 becomes a dead duck of a story that no longer carries on as from memory it did pick up in the dream season.
 

James from London

International Treasure
I guess what this does mean is the search for Mark Grayson that took place in season 8 becomes a dead duck of a story that no longer carries on as from memory it did pick up in the dream season.
In a way, it becomes a more tragic story in hindsight. If we still buy that Mark was alive when Pam was in Hong Kong and arranged for her to see the decoy instead of him, that means he was in remission but it didn't last (which parallels what eventually happens to Pam herself -- she travels to Abu Dhabi hoping to find a last chance cure for her cancer so she can return to Christopher, but then she doesn't make it either).
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
I own Seasons 1 thru 8 and Season 10 (per DVD count). But for first-time viewing, I'd watch the dream season just to get a sense of how jarring the whole mess is and was at the time -- watching this, the most successful drama series in global television history, start its long trek of melting down like the Wicked Bitch of the West.

New writers in tow, the first half of the dream season is alright-ish, more experimental and a little self-consciously arty... But by the middle, the plots fail to begin coalescing, and the stories just meander and muddle. The glamour really does go through the ceiling with a mid-'80s kind of inevitability, and DALLAS is attempting to become DYNASTY almost literally, but DALLAS feels inappropriate dispensing this kind of narrative incompetence and pretention, while we've long gotten used to it on DYNASTY.

Then, when Pam wakes up at the beginning of Season 10 and she and Bobby tell each other that for the last 31 1/2 episodes she'd just been snoozing, it was, at the time, a reductive shock, the groan heard around the world, and a ballsily arrogant choice by the returning producers. The next 29 episodes are terrific fun, the closest DALLAS ever came to self-parody which actually worked, and became arguably the year with the most frequent re-watch potential, but the fans were mad about the use of the dream trick, and Lorimar was now cutting corners by avoiding the usual film lab work and instead using a cheapy computerized video post-production process which made the show look so bad it was almost breath-taking (and looked five times worse than the DVDs for S10 do today).

And if you leave out Season 9, the dream season, you won't find that the end of Season 8 and the beginning of Season 10 line up with each other any better than if you'd sat through the dream.

My point being: we suffered through it at least once. So shouldn't everybody??

Kenneth_Larsen_Pam_2.jpg

"Gonna Jhirmack that man right out of my hair....!"
 

Seaviewer

Telly Talk Warrior
I honestly always skip it. There are some good stuff in season 9 (especially the first part before they seemingly started messing with it), but it's just frustrating sitting through 30+ episodes and only to realise it didn't really matter.
As the great comics writer Alan Moore once said, "they're all imaginary stories."
 

Miss Texas 1967

Telly Talk Addict
I actually did this on my most recent rewatch and the issue was just as split then when I asked what others thought of the idea :p

I think it actually works to skip it and then go back and watch it separate to the rest of the show because it's a far better quality than the final season and it's pretty self-contained.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
@Darren Chivers - Absolutely Not, please dont skip it

i wrote this is another post asking the same and still think the same today

QUOTE
I would say dont skip it at all and the first 12 episodes are really good

Pamela / VP has never looked more stunning and the Oil barons ball is a great one.
Linda Gray did her best acting this season
Susan Howard and Steve Kanaly gave wonderful performances and best of all BBG was back as momma and the woodentop was no more

I loved the early dream season, it did get a bit silly later on with Angelica Nero, GRace, Nicholas, Emerald mines etc but you can happily whizz thro those scenes and the final 3 episodes are great and it ends with a wedding, explosion and a shower!

You have to watch it even if some is at FWD

As much as i loved Pat D, I didnt miss him that much as Id rather have BBG back in Dallas and I liked Pam and Mark together.

Its got a great rodeo, Oil Barons ball, SF and Dallas look great and its the last season before it goes onto cheap film.
Best summary of the Dream Season I've ever read. For me that was the end of Dallas. I'm left to wonder, what happened to Sue Ellen, but I assume after years of recovery with JR by her side, they lived happily-ish every after. JR one day of course inherited South Fork and built Ewing Oil into Ewing Industries (a bit Koch Industries inspired) and one day John Ross inherited it all with Christopher as a future nemesis. To mean the dream started when Bobby turned around in the shower and Pam never did wake up. Or maybe that's my dream of what happened.

I wanted to try it and see how the flow worked so I skipped it! I will go back and enjoy the dream on it's own at some point.

I think it does flow, it kind of all makes sense if you can get over the fact everyone ages considerably overnight and baby Christopher is far from a baby now having aged several years! Suddenly we are plunged into an oil crisis bit things happen quickly in Dallas so I can accept that.

I love this version of the theme tune, the one where it has that mini interlude segment over Donna and Ray's credits. How poor Jennilee Harrison was never given an opening shot is a real shame for her time on the show.

I guess what this does mean is the search for Mark Grayson that took place in season 8 becomes a dead duck of a story that no longer carries on as from memory it did pick up in the dream season.
Probably best if you're going to continue past the dream season. :think:

I own Seasons 1 thru 8 and Season 10 (per DVD count). But for first-time viewing, I'd watch the dream season just to get a sense of how jarring the whole mess is and was at the time -- watching this, the most successful drama series in global television history, start its long trek of melting down like the Wicked Bitch of the West.

New writers in tow, the first half of the dream season is alright-ish, more experimental and a little self-consciously arty... But by the middle, the plots fail to begin coalescing, and the stories just meander and muddle. The glamour really does go through the ceiling with a mid-'80s kind of inevitability, and DALLAS is attempting to become DYNASTY almost literally, but DALLAS feels inappropriate dispensing this kind of narrative incompetence and pretention, while we've long gotten used to it on DYNASTY.

Then, when Pam wakes up at the beginning of Season 10 and she and Bobby tell each other that for the last 31 1/2 episodes she'd just been snoozing, it was, at the time, a reductive shock, the groan heard around the world, and a ballsily arrogant choice by the returning producers. The next 29 episodes are terrific fun, the closest DALLAS ever came to self-parody which actually worked, and became arguably the year with the most frequent re-watch potential, but the fans were mad about the use of the dream trick, and Lorimar was now cutting corners by avoiding the usual film lab work and instead using a cheapy computerized video post-production process which made the show look so bad it was almost breath-taking (and looked five times worse than the DVDs for S10 do today).

And if you leave out Season 9, the dream season, you won't find that the end of Season 8 and the beginning of Season 10 line up with each other any better than if you'd sat through the dream.

My point being: we suffered through it at least once. So shouldn't everybody??

Kenneth_Larsen_Pam_2.jpg

"Gonna Jhirmack that man right out of my hair....!"
Good points. So you stop at the end of 10? Not a bad idea as things go. I wish they would have stopped at 9 and then had a really good movie years later but I can see giving it another college try and stopping at 10 with a good movie years later. And I'll agree 11 on - wow - then two movies which you watch just to watch, that then get written out - then 3 mini seasons of wtf was that? Was that really Dallas? :oops: . I guess when you're that big you die really, really, really slowly.

I actually did this on my most recent rewatch and the issue was just as split then when I asked what others thought of the idea :p

I think it actually works to skip it and then go back and watch it separate to the rest of the show because it's a far better quality than the final season and it's pretty self-contained.
I like this idea - skip it but then go back and pick it up. When it ends you have this empty feeling - I mean if you stick through it from 11 to the end you really are in it to visit with old friends. So here's your chance to go back and get another ending with old friends, one where Bobby is dead and we don't get an answer to what happened to Sue Ellen but like Gone with the Wind, we don't need those answers (though I will say GWTW second sequel is much better than it's first).
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
I've always been in two minds whether I would skip the "Dream Season" only because my DVD Collection of Dallas finished at "Swan Song." However, thanks to the internet ;) (GOD bless you internet creators) I now have access to the subsequent years. I've just watched the first 3 episodes after Bobby's death. Was someone a fan of Barbara Bel Geddes and Linda Gray? Their performances alone should have garnered Emmy nominations and wins. Their acting is phenomenal especially the scenes of Linda (Sue Ellen) in the prison cell followed soon after in the detox centre. Which begs the question.

Is it just me or did the characters of Pam and Jenna get slighted - thus far - in the return season after Bobby's passing. It seems odd Bobby's death reflects more on Miss Ellie and Sue Ellen when I would have thought the characters of Pam and Jenna to be at the forefront of the drama.

I know this season drifts into Dynasty mode but the opening episodes prove why Dallas was at the top of its game. And so far I'm not missing Bobby.
 
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