Dallas Character The Mickey Trotter Incident

[Don Howard]

Yeah, but so did Dack Rambo when he got in the credits. Sometimes that is just a contract negotiation that be a gift to them to counteract getting phased out.

At least he played a significant role in the episodes he was in that season. Trotter pretty much just plopped there.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

Many years back this was a much heated topic on the Ultimate Dallas message board. Some declared Ray Krebbs a murderer for pulling the plug, I always thought Sue Ellen was at fault and Ray only did what Mickey wanted......any thoughts now many years later?

The show was great at this time!

Driscoll was the main culprit but others shared blame and I'd put Sue Ellen at the top of that list. Had she not tried to drive drunk, Mickey would never have been in the car. I strongly disliked her reaction - that she had no guilt to bear. Ray shared some blame for helping frame Driscoll, but as for pulling the plug, he was honoring Mickey's wishes.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

Did Mickey have a brain of his own?

Of course he did. That's why he got in the car to try to stop Sue Ellen from driving drunk. She was too drunk to use her brain properly, so Mickey stepped in to try to keep Sue Ellen from killing herself and/or innocent people on the road. Mickey was trying to do a good thing.

I understand you're making the point it was Mickey's decision to try to do a good deed, but it was Sue Ellen being drunk that caused him to try to do something to save her and innocent people on the road as well.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

LH was even more of a worthless human being than I thought after reading his daughter's book.

Worthless? I didn't know him personally but I can see from his acting alone that he certainly had worth. Maybe you don't consider his acting of any worth, but I do. Think of how much happiness he brought to so many millions of people. Few have brought happiness to so many for so long.

Next to his acting career I consider Larry Hagman's greatest achievement to be maintaining a marriage to the same woman for so long, 58 years, until he died. Among top celebrities like Hagman, maintaining a solid marriage for that length time puts him in 1 percent of 1 percent of them all.

There is an actual autobiography of Larry Hagman. It's titled "Hello Darlin" and although I sometimes read biographies, there's nothing better than getting the story from the man himself.

 

[Presea]

Worthless? I didn't know him personally but I can see from his acting alone that he certainly had worth. Maybe you don't consider his acting of any worth, but I do. Think of how much happiness he brought to so many millions of people. Few have brought happiness to so many for so long.

Next to his acting career I consider Larry Hagman's greatest achievement to be maintaining a marriage to the same woman for so long, 58 years, until he died. Among top celebrities like Hagman, maintaining a solid marriage for that length time puts him in 1 percent of 1 percent of them all.

There is an actual autobiography of Larry Hagman. It's titled "Hello Darlin" and although I sometimes read biographies, there's nothing better than getting the story from the man himself.

While I believe that Larry Hagman was a great actor and that he had a lot of positive interactions with people in his life, I just don't like him. All of that crazy crap that he put his family through was terrible! And I don't think that having a long marriage is an achievement when you cheat like he did!

 

[Presea]

And don't forget Lucy for encouraging Micky to stop Sue Ellen and Aunt Lil for encouraging Ray to end Micky's life support.

If we try hard enough, we could probably find a reason why Teresa could take a share of the responsibility.

Micky's crash was a horrible accident for which many were responsible but his death was a deliberate act by Ray.

No matter what,Teresa just couldn't figure out how to get rid of the liquor properly. She was too busy hanging out with Raoul at the movies and stuff!

 

[azDallas]

I actually just watched the episode today where he died. It's pretty obvious in the storyline it wasn't Sue Ellen's fault as Driscoll rammed her car intentionally.
the disturbing part of the story is they just kill him off so they don't have to deal with this character who's paralyzed. they often do things like that in tv.

 

[Presea]

Driscoll was the main culprit but others shared blame and I'd put Sue Ellen at the top of that list. Had she not tried to drive drunk, Mickey would never have been in the car. I strongly disliked her reaction - that she had no guilt to bear. Ray shared some blame for helping frame Driscoll, but as for pulling the plug, he was honoring Mickey's wishes.

I agree that Sue Ellen was partly to blame here, but I don't agree about her not feeling any guilt about it. She was angry at JR for not telling her that Walt had been aiming for him because before she knew that, she felt guilty about it.

 

[J. R.'s Piece]

As Mustard and others pointed out, it was a chain of events. Although Sue Ellen was doing the drunk-driving, Walt Driscoll the car crashing and Ray the plug-pulling, with the actions of JR, Bobby, Ray, Lucy and Aunt Lil affecting events. I wasn't too keen Sue Ellen's reaction where she heard about Driscoll driving the car that hit them.

If we try hard enough, we could probably find a reason why Teresa could take a share of the responsibility.

I don't know but I'd wager the Ramos family had a hand in it.

I know it's a soap opera, but it seemed like there was a bit TOO much death in Dallas! The Mickey thing really made me start to think that.

Oh, the death rate on the UK soap Hollyoaks (on which Linda Gray appears this month) is far higher. Two dozen deaths within the last two years, with two of those happening this week, as part of the Halloween Spooktacular. Resident multiple murderer schoolgirl Nico (who caused the death of once-dead-but-currently-alive resident multiple murderer Warren Fox's baby) seems to have been deliberately burnt to death in a maze by resident-multiple-murderer-who-bumped-off-his-own-brother Cameron Campbell tonight. The murder rate in Hollyoaks is many times higher than that of Caracas, Venezuela.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

what a stupid way to attempt to murder someone...

(to this day, Fenton Washburn is embarrassed to have been associated with the whole thing, as we can see above)

 

[Toni]

Everybody ignores what is blatantly obvious: that it all was...

"Oh thank you Grandma for telling me I was reading the book in reverse..."​

...Lucy´s fault, because she pushed him to stop Swellin from driving.

 

[pete lashmar]

I remember when it aired originally in the UK, our beloved Terry Wogan joked that we never ever saw any traffic on that road - and then Sue Ellen's car got hit.

Of course, as we later found out, it was all set up for a hit and run, but everyone had a good laugh about it at the time....like a what are the odds of that happening on an empty road.

Difficult to assign blame though....Sue Ellen should absolutely have faced charges of drink driving and reckless driving. Walt Driscoll was guilty of attempted murder and reckless driving.

As for Mickey#s murder, both Ray & Aunt Lil should be been equally guilty of murder/manslaughter.

Overall though, for all the events to unravel you have to put the blame on Sue Ellen,

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I remember when it aired originally in the UK, our beloved Terry Wogan joked that we never ever saw any traffic on that road - and then Sue Ellen's car got hit.

Of course, as we later found out, it was all set up for a hit and run, but everyone had a good laugh about it at the time....like a what are the odds of that happening on an empty road.

Difficult to assign blame though....Sue Ellen should absolutely have faced charges of drink driving and reckless driving. Walt Driscoll was guilty of attempted murder and reckless driving.

As for Mickey#s murder, both Ray & Aunt Lil should be been equally guilty of murder/manslaughter.

Overall though, for all the events to unravel you have to put the blame on Sue Ellen,

In a real world you are probably right.
Interesting how even so, JR and Bobby both have no accountability.
Even though later, JR would tell Bobby and Ray that none of them have clean hands, after, Bobby and Ray set up Walt Driscoll in the first place.
Maybe the bigger point is that the rich and powerful are rarely held accountable

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I remember when it aired originally in the UK, our beloved Terry Wogan joked that we never ever saw any traffic on that road - and then Sue Ellen's car got hit.

Of course, as we later found out, it was all set up for a hit and run, but everyone had a good laugh about it at the time....like a what are the odds of that happening on an empty road.

Difficult to assign blame though....Sue Ellen should absolutely have faced charges of drink driving and reckless driving. Walt Driscoll was guilty of attempted murder and reckless driving.

As for Mickey#s murder, both Ray & Aunt Lil should be been equally guilty of murder/manslaughter.

Overall though, for all the events to unravel you have to put the blame on Sue Ellen,

Yeah.

After all she was a drunk and an unfit Mother and the sooner she was put in a Sanitarium the better off we'd all be!

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

I remember when it aired originally in the UK, our beloved Terry Wogan joked that we never ever saw any traffic on that road - and then Sue Ellen's car got hit.

Of course, as we later found out, it was all set up for a hit and run, but everyone had a good laugh about it at the time....like a what are the odds of that happening on an empty road.

Difficult to assign blame though....Sue Ellen should absolutely have faced charges of drink driving and reckless driving. Walt Driscoll was guilty of attempted murder and reckless driving.

As for Mickey#s murder, both Ray & Aunt Lil should be been equally guilty of murder/manslaughter.

Overall though, for all the events to unravel you have to put the blame on Sue Ellen,

how would Driscoll have been able to tell it was the right car (with JR driving, no less) at night like that, then be able to smash into him in just the right way to kill him? The OLM was truly run by a succession of nitwits!

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

how would Driscoll have been able to tell it was the right car (with JR driving, no less) at night like that, then be able to smash into him in just the right way to kill him? The OLM was truly run by a succession of nitwits!

Oh, it's fairly easy to stalk someone to see what their mode of transport is if you wanna kill them!

For instance Cynthia Cidre had a Cadillac Allante model, a silver one. I forget the registration!

I don't think she drives that one now since the accident which forced it off the road!!

I'm only glad I got a clean getaway.

 

[Billy Wall]

Oh, it's fairly easy to stalk someone to see what their mode of transport is if you wanna kill them!

For instance Cynthia Cidre had a Cadillac Allante model, a silver one. I forget the registration!

I don't think she drives that one now since the accident which forced it off the road!!

I'm only glad I got a clean getaway.

But at night? Not knowing 100% who’s in the car?

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

But at night? Not knowing 100% who’s in the car?

Well, it's a calculated risk if you follow them home and wait for them to come out again, I suppose!

Not that I'd do something like that!

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Walt Driscoll and Sue Ellen committed manslaughter, in my opinion. Sue Ellen was drinking and driving, and walked away with mere bruises, yet left Mickey paralysed from the neck down and he couldn't bear his life in that state.

As for Ray, if he and Bobby hadn't got on their moral high horse and scuppered J.R. and Walt Driscoll in the shipping of oil to Cuba, the chain of events that led to Mickey's paralysis would have never been started. Of course, J.R. pointed this out to Ray and Bobby later on after Ray and Bobby had tried to blame J.R.

Yeah that's true.

None of us have clean hands, boys!

 

[CeeCee72]

I blame Holly Whorewood. If she hadn't set Sue Ellen up to see JR in bed with her, Sue Ellen wouldn't have been drinking and Mickey would have never been in that car.

But yeah, if Sue Ellen wasn't rich and didn't have such a powerful husband, she would have been charged with DUI and probably attempted manslaughter.