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Should Jock have been re-cast immediately after Jim Davis passed away?
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Punk Anderson won't walk onto Southfork if he sees Chester Goode within 10 miles of the place.
Dennis Weaver, James Arness, Dale Robertson (who actually did guest star), Fess Parker, Chuck Connors, Clint Walker, Gene Barry - there were are a lot of interesting former TV western actors who I bet would have been happy to get a nice part on a blockbuster like Dallas in the 1980s. They sure weren’t making TV westerns at that point.
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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he had a reputation as being difficult by 1981, and likely would have asked for more money than Hagman, but especially with his sister having paved the way as the dynamic Mrs. Reeves, a turn as the patriarch on the world’s #1 television show might have been just the jolt Brando needed to catapult himself back to the top of the Hollywood heap
Billy Wall
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he had a reputation as being difficult by 1981, and likely would have asked for more money than Hagman, but especially with his sister having paved the way as the dynamic Mrs. Reeves, a turn as the patriarch on the world’s #1 television show might have been just the jolt Brando needed to catapult himself back to the top of the Hollywood heap
No way was Brando coming to Dallas. Lol
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If he had, they would have had to start letting the women go a lot sooner than they did, in order to accommodate the enormous craft services budget.
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Buddy Ebsen would have been my choice.
I even heard rumors at the time that BE was being considered for the role.
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Some good possibilities. I would add Forrest Tucker.
Seaviewer
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I don't think that when Clayton was introduced he was intended to marry Ellie. When someone had that brainstorm, I guess they were stuck with what they had.
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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I can't even see him in the role at all.
The character of Jock needed a gruff western style actor in the role which is why I think Jim Davis was perfect casting.
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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I dunno, he might have surprised us with his range. Cliff Barnes certainly thought he'd be perfect for the role:I can't even see him in the role at all.
The character of Jock needed a gruff western style actor in the role which is why I think Jim Davis was perfect casting.
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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I suppose this is also well documented in your magnum opus of The under-utilisation of the Dynamic Andy Bradley?I dunno, he might have surprised us with his range. Cliff Barnes certainly thought he'd be perfect for the role:
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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Andy was a big Godfather fan and would sometimes call Jock “Don Ewing” in a surprisingly accurate Italian accent at the Cattleman’s Club when they were a few bourbons in.I suppose this is also well documented in your magnum opus of The under-utilisation of the Dynamic Andy Bradley?
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Mustard
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Isn't Jock Ewing Dallas' answer to Vito Corleone?I can't even see him in the role at all.
The character of Jock needed a gruff western style actor in the role which is why I think Jim Davis was perfect casting.
Slight variations though, because J.R. is the eldest Ewing son yet he's more like Michael Corleone, whereas Bobby has the short temper like the eldest Corleone son Santino (aka Sonny).
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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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Isn't Jock Ewing Dallas' answer to Vito Corleone?
Slight variations though, because J.R. is the eldest Ewing son yet he's more like Michael Corleone, whereas Bobby has the short temper like the eldest Corleone son Santino (aka Sonny).
I wouldn't know, I've never watched the God Father films.
Billy Wall
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Isn't Jock Ewing Dallas' answer to Vito Corleone?
Slight variations though, because J.R. is the eldest Ewing son yet he's more like Michael Corleone, whereas Bobby has the short temper like the eldest Corleone son Santino (aka Sonny).
Absolutely. They definitely took some liberties from The Godfather. Gary’s the Dallas equivalent to Fredo.
JR even talked about a lesson he learned from Jock. “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.” Which is a famous quote from The Godfather.
Mustard
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Wow. You should watch the first 2 films at least. The first film is set 1945-1955, and the second film is both a prequel (1901-1925) and sequel (1958-1960).I wouldn't know, I've never watched the God Father films.
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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I'm only glad Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies are years away otherwise Gary would be the Dallas equivalent to Frodo!
And Jock Ewing is quite clearly Gandalf. He even dies and comes back later with different coloured hair!
harry96
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Probably not.
But, if they had to, I think the only way it could've worked was if they hired someone who not only fit the mold, but was a much bigger star than Jim was even in 1981, and certainly much bigger than he was when Dallas started.
I had never thought of Buddy Ebsen, but I like that suggestion a lot.
I always think of Andy Griffith or Jimmy Stewart.
But, if they had to, I think the only way it could've worked was if they hired someone who not only fit the mold, but was a much bigger star than Jim was even in 1981, and certainly much bigger than he was when Dallas started.
I had never thought of Buddy Ebsen, but I like that suggestion a lot.
I always think of Andy Griffith or Jimmy Stewart.
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CeeCee72
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Generally, I don't like re-casts under any situation. When an actor is good at their job, they become so identified with the character that recasting is often disastrous. Jim Davis WAS Jock Ewing. Period. I think recasting him would have been just a jarring and unpopular as when Dallas recast Miss Ellie.
Plus, as others have pointed out, dealing with Jock's death and his will have us the best Dallas episodes we ever got.
Plus, as others have pointed out, dealing with Jock's death and his will have us the best Dallas episodes we ever got.