Rewatching Dallas with a newbie

CeeCee72

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Whelp, we finally finished.

She basically spent the last ten episodes complaining about how awful it was, how thinly drawn the characters were, how stupid the plots were.

She was pretty silent about it all, except for Conundrum. Although she was happy to see Sue Ellen and Ray and even Kristin,she said it was the most ridiculous ending in the history of television. But, she was happy Jenna wasn't back. Wasn't happy about achy Breaky Heart-throb.

Starting the dream season tomorrow.
 
CeeCee72

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Mustard said:
Probably best to start with Swansong again first, to get fully into the emotions with Bobby's death, and it's arguably the greatest single episode of Dallas of all time. Did you watch the whole Swansong episode last time round, or cut it after Ray and Donna's talk at night before the dream started?
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Cut it before he died. But yeah, we should definitely watch that one again before we get into the dream season.
 
CeeCee72

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So five episodes into the dream season.

We watched the whole Swansong. She is devastated. She never even liked Bobby, but is devastated.

She is worried about Sue Ellen but thinks JR is not out of bounds being so cruel to her.

Called Mandy "nice boobs lady." Wants Dusty to die in another plane crash and stay dead. Soooo glad to see Donna and Ray together again. Says "her" Miss Ellie is back.
 
CeeCee72

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So, so far through episode 15.

She is so proud of Sue Ellen. Said this is much more believable than they whole season ten "I'll just quick drinking to make JR miserable" plot where Sue Ellen gets sober. She was also very glad that it is was Ellie who forced JR to put Sue Ellen away. She this season, Miss Ellie is back to being Miss Ellie.

Pam is annoying her. She said it's awful that Bobby's body isn't even cold and Pam is already mooning over Mark. Don't even get her started on Jenna.

Happy to see Ray and Donna moving into Southfork. She hopes that means we will get to see more of them.

She predicts Angelica is going to be "another bimbo that threatens JR and tries to take Ewing Oil." She also made a smart crack about the beast master/lizard fighter showing up as an "old family friend" no one ever heard of.

She finds Mandy to be utterly ridiculous. First, she doesn't take the hint about who JR really loves during his speech about SE's eyes and now that JR has asked SE to come home, Many should cut her losses and get the hell out of town. She said JR may *think* he wants SE to come home to trick her out of custody, but after the way he looked at her when she allowed John Ross to live at SF it's obvious how he really feels.

Overall, she says this is one of the best seasons so far.
 
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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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I want to know what she thinks of Ben Stivers because if Patrick Duffy had not returned in season ten, Ben WOULD'VE been revealed as being Jock Ewing. :)
 
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If it wasn't for Pam moving on so quickly with Mark, I'd be inclined to agree it wasn't a bad season. Sue Ellen overcoming her alcoholism was definitely more realistic. however, if the show wasn't going to have Bobby, it needed someone up against JR, and they unfortunately didn't take that nearly far enough with Pam at Ewing Oil. If only Duffy had just never decided to leave in the first place. Can't say I blame him, but just think how different things would have been for the show. We would have had at least two years of Bobby and Pam back together, and possibly more if Victoria might not have left after the dream resolution, or had been recast. We also still would have had the elements of the dream season as canon, just no Mark/Pam romance, which is more than fine with me.
 
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Mustard

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Pam moving on with Mark was a damn good thing. Long overdue too. The show goes on with the living. In Season 7 DVD, it was clear that it was Bobby that Pam loved most even when she was with Mark and loved him.
 
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CeeCee72

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Mustard said:
Pam moving on with Mark was a damn good thing. Long overdue too. The show goes on with the living. In Season 7 DVD, it was clear that it was Bobby that Pam loved most even when she was with Mark and loved him.
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Part of it is that she has never cared for Mark as a character. She said he was creepy during his first run and felt he was shoe horned in to the Bobby/Pam marriage to cause drama.
 
CeeCee72

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Finally finished the dream season.

Her biggest likes - Sue Ellen's transformation and JR's epiphany regarding their marriage. Pam at Ewing Oil. Ray, Donna, and Tony. Cliff finally growing up.

Biggest dislikes - The emerald mine. All things Mark Graison. Angelica.

And Jenna. The whining, the screaming, the fainting...and the Bobby loves emeralds speech she said was the dumbest speech ever given on TV.

She really enjoyed the season and said Dallas should have ended there. Says it would have been the perfect stopping point. JR finally got Ewing Oil. Sue Ellen finally got sober. Cliff finally allowed himself to be happy. Pam moved on with her life. Bobby was mourned appropriately. She says if Dallas had ended there, it would have gone down as one of the the greatest shows in TV history. Instead, we had to watch it die a slow, painful, and ridiculous death.

Falcone Crest is next up!
 
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crypt cadaver72 said:
She basically spent the last ten episodes complaining about how awful it was, how thinly drawn the characters were, how stupid the plots were.
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Only the last 10 ?? How about all of the final series? ;)

and she was right about the ending

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Says "her" Miss Ellie is back.
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her and me both! Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!

I loved the dream season with the exception of Angelica and Co and emerald mines
I liked Graison with Pam too
 
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