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Dallas Couples JR & Sue Ellen - Swoonalicious Appreciation Thread
Ms Southworth
Telly Talk Dream Maker
Always Mandy ... got it!
But wasn't JR also self involved and self important? Maybe JR and Mandy are of the same kind?
Didn't Sue Ellen deserve better (and more) than what JR was able to give?
Nah that's where you are wrong Ms Southworth, JR and Sue Ellen are the same kind. They deserve each other. :BL:
The first quote from JR in this video sums up it perfectly.
Mandy is too mellow for a guy like JR. She's not sassy enough. JR needs a woman who is more of his equal to keep him on his toes and keep him interested in her. It's taken Sue Ellen years to learn how to play him. But she is really his perfect match. No other woman can keep his interest as long as she can. She is his confidant too, the one he shares his secrets with, the one who truly gets him like no other woman does.
The first quote from JR in this video sums up it perfectly.
Mandy is too mellow for a guy like JR. She's not sassy enough. JR needs a woman who is more of his equal to keep him on his toes and keep him interested in her. It's taken Sue Ellen years to learn how to play him. But she is really his perfect match. No other woman can keep his interest as long as she can. She is his confidant too, the one he shares his secrets with, the one who truly gets him like no other woman does.
Ms Southworth
Telly Talk Dream Maker
So sad that Whitney Houston are no longer with us! 
She was who I first and foremost thought of while watching your wonderful video, Karin! (sorry)
Is it just me, or were most of the clips in the video from season 5?
JR and Mandy were not a perfect match. Don't get me wrong! Like a few other characters I can think of, Mandy changed dramatically from when she was first introduced until she left the show. I didn't mind her in the beginning, although I never saw her as a perfect match for Cliff. But as her personality changed, I found myself "distancing" from her, because I couldn't relate to the choices that she made and the life that the chose to live.
When things were good between JR and Sue Ellen, things were REALLY GOOD!
Unfortunately, Sue Ellen didn't have enough good times with JR, IMO! JR loved the chase! Not only after Sue Ellen, but also after other beautiful women, who happened to pass his way! If only JR would stay faithful to Sue Ellen on a continued basis, I definitely would want them to be a couple forever and ever. But JR hurt her so many times (also deliberately), and that's why I had a hard time seeing them together longterm! However, I always imagined that they would find their way back together, if not sooner then at least when they were pushing retirement. JR and Sue Ellen do have amazing chemistry and share a special kind of love!
She was who I first and foremost thought of while watching your wonderful video, Karin! (sorry) Is it just me, or were most of the clips in the video from season 5?
JR and Mandy were not a perfect match. Don't get me wrong! Like a few other characters I can think of, Mandy changed dramatically from when she was first introduced until she left the show. I didn't mind her in the beginning, although I never saw her as a perfect match for Cliff. But as her personality changed, I found myself "distancing" from her, because I couldn't relate to the choices that she made and the life that the chose to live.
When things were good between JR and Sue Ellen, things were REALLY GOOD!
Unfortunately, Sue Ellen didn't have enough good times with JR, IMO! JR loved the chase! Not only after Sue Ellen, but also after other beautiful women, who happened to pass his way! If only JR would stay faithful to Sue Ellen on a continued basis, I definitely would want them to be a couple forever and ever. But JR hurt her so many times (also deliberately), and that's why I had a hard time seeing them together longterm! However, I always imagined that they would find their way back together, if not sooner then at least when they were pushing retirement. JR and Sue Ellen do have amazing chemistry and share a special kind of love! Alexia, I agree that season five was a wonderful season for JR/SE fans.
Thanks Ms. Southworth, I am glad that you enjoyed my video.
Yeah most of the clips was from season five, as I wanted to make a video focusing on the time era in between their marriages when JR was courting her.
I was sad when Whitney Houston died too.
I agree with a lot of what you said about JR/SE and also Mandy. I think Mandy wasn't meant to be more than a rebound girl for Cliff really...
I wish JR/SE would have been together on the new show. They would have been wonderful to see together as the older couple.
@The Lovely Sue Ellen here's some caps from Wind Of Vengeance:
He comes home from his trip...
and heads straight for the fridge to get a beer.
She asks questions...
He is not amused and runs off.
Thanks Ms. Southworth, I am glad that you enjoyed my video.
Yeah most of the clips was from season five, as I wanted to make a video focusing on the time era in between their marriages when JR was courting her.
I was sad when Whitney Houston died too.
I agree with a lot of what you said about JR/SE and also Mandy. I think Mandy wasn't meant to be more than a rebound girl for Cliff really...
I wish JR/SE would have been together on the new show. They would have been wonderful to see together as the older couple.
@The Lovely Sue Ellen here's some caps from Wind Of Vengeance:
He comes home from his trip...
and heads straight for the fridge to get a beer.
She asks questions...
He is not amused and runs off.
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i love jr ewing
Telly Talk Winner
Great pictures.
The Lovely Sue Ellen
Telly Talk Well-Known Member
Love them!!!
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Sarah
Moderator Emerita
I don't believe Mandy changed. She was a nasty self involved bitch from day one. I've never come across a tv character who loves themselves so much.
Except JR - but he's allowed to.
JR and Sue Ellen's story does make me sad because he wished up only towards the end of his life and truly seemed to realise that she was The One. I remember when Larry died I cried for days for him - and for what could have been for them. I remember JR told John Ross 'I spent most of your childhood chasing after women I didn't love'.
Except JR - but he's allowed to.
JR and Sue Ellen's story does make me sad because he wished up only towards the end of his life and truly seemed to realise that she was The One. I remember when Larry died I cried for days for him - and for what could have been for them. I remember JR told John Ross 'I spent most of your childhood chasing after women I didn't love'.
Alexia
Telly Talk Fan
I know what you mean Sarah. Larry's death was a double loss. Both of Larry and of JR. :hb:
I was also really sad that we never got the proper JR/SE reconcilation on the new show that we should have gotten. They filmed 15 episodes before he died so talk about a missed opportunity.
I'm still annoyed that that dance scene from the last barbeque never made it to the deleted scenes of the DVD. I remember when the season one DVD arrived I was so happy I was almost jumping with joy, only to realize a few hours later that the one scene that I most wanted to see was missing!
I think Wind of Vengeance is a brilliant but creepy episode. I hate how the Lee Raintree book wrote that that man, whatever his name was, raped Sue Ellen. When I watch it on the TV I don't interpret it that way. But then again maybe I just see what I wanna see.
Like the other day I was watching Barbeque Four and in it Sue Ellen sees Peter over by the stables and they start kissing. For some reason I always think nothing more happened. But watching it the other day I was like whoa maybe we are supposed to interpret that like they had sex in the barn right in the middle of the BBQ. So naughty if they did. For some reason I thought she'd only been with Peter once...but maybe I interpret it all wrong!
How do you interpret these two episodes/scenes that I just mentioned?
Then as for JR/SE. I think he knew all along that he loved her and that she was the one. Vanessa who?
I don't buy it. JR Returns fixed so much for us. Really I think JR/SE should already have been remarried and living at Southfork by the time the new show started instead of him being locked up in that elderly home/psych ward. Another missed opportunity.
I was also really sad that we never got the proper JR/SE reconcilation on the new show that we should have gotten. They filmed 15 episodes before he died so talk about a missed opportunity.
I'm still annoyed that that dance scene from the last barbeque never made it to the deleted scenes of the DVD. I remember when the season one DVD arrived I was so happy I was almost jumping with joy, only to realize a few hours later that the one scene that I most wanted to see was missing!
I think Wind of Vengeance is a brilliant but creepy episode. I hate how the Lee Raintree book wrote that that man, whatever his name was, raped Sue Ellen. When I watch it on the TV I don't interpret it that way. But then again maybe I just see what I wanna see.
Like the other day I was watching Barbeque Four and in it Sue Ellen sees Peter over by the stables and they start kissing. For some reason I always think nothing more happened. But watching it the other day I was like whoa maybe we are supposed to interpret that like they had sex in the barn right in the middle of the BBQ.
So naughty if they did. For some reason I thought she'd only been with Peter once...but maybe I interpret it all wrong!How do you interpret these two episodes/scenes that I just mentioned?
Then as for JR/SE. I think he knew all along that he loved her and that she was the one. Vanessa who?
I don't buy it. JR Returns fixed so much for us. Really I think JR/SE should already have been remarried and living at Southfork by the time the new show started instead of him being locked up in that elderly home/psych ward. Another missed opportunity.
Also @The Lovely Sue Ellen here's some more Wind of Vengeance caps:
Freeze frame on JR's face.
That's all for now. I hope these weren't too painful to watch. It's a tough subject matter but the episode does showcase Linda's acting skills.
Freeze frame on JR's face.
That's all for now. I hope these weren't too painful to watch. It's a tough subject matter but the episode does showcase Linda's acting skills.
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Ms Southworth
Telly Talk Dream Maker
Great screen caps 
I felt so bad for Sue Ellen! And at the same time I was amazed at how brilliant Linda's acting skills were! :loveit:
I felt so bad for Sue Ellen!
And at the same time I was amazed at how brilliant Linda's acting skills were! :loveit:
i love jr ewing
Telly Talk Winner
Great pictures.
This episode is actually the first my little sister watched when Dallas was being shown in reruns and after seeing it she decided to give the show a chance and kept watching it with me. So it must have had something that caught people's attention. The only episode she had seen before then was episode 300.
My first Dallas episode that I watched in full was the one after Pam's crash. I know I began watching the show at the wrong end. I remember watching an episode from the season before the dream season at a friends some years prior to that though. One of the first things I noticed about the show as a child was how glamourous the women were with their big earrings, high heels and nice clothes.
Which is the first episode you can remember watching and what your first impression of the show?
P.S. On a completely different note, I stumbled across this Linda clip online:
My first Dallas episode that I watched in full was the one after Pam's crash. I know I began watching the show at the wrong end. I remember watching an episode from the season before the dream season at a friends some years prior to that though. One of the first things I noticed about the show as a child was how glamourous the women were with their big earrings, high heels and nice clothes.
Which is the first episode you can remember watching and what your first impression of the show?
P.S. On a completely different note, I stumbled across this Linda clip online:
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