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<blockquote data-quote="stevew" data-source="post: 282950" data-attributes="member: 130">I do get your point, but there are certainly plenty of real life examples of men like JR now and then.&nbsp; The thing really is real life or not did it work for the show and I agree that it did not.&nbsp; By the time you get to the movies and JR starts with sex I was totally unimpressed.&nbsp; It&#039;s not like we saw Angela Channing bed hopping.&nbsp; It just doesn&#039;t make good tv.&nbsp;&nbsp; And I agree with JR and Cliff - it should have been left for comic relief on occasion, no more.&nbsp; As for Miss Ellie, I did get her point, her insecurities and I thought that was palatable as a side sorry and maybe many older women did relate and did appreciate it.&nbsp; But again, at best a side story.&nbsp; With BBG health issue, I so no reason for story lines beyond occasional appearance.&nbsp; &quot;JR leave me out of this.&nbsp; I have nothing to do with Ewing Oil any more, keep all this fighting at the office.&quot;&nbsp; That should have been it - certainly much better than brining on Donna Reed - just make her a reoccurring cast member, no need to story lines.&nbsp; And Bobby and Pam getting back together for me was more a bit deal that the characters were able to put so much behind them and give it another go, more than the big deal of a Romeo and Juliet story it once was, but I agree there was a bit of a feel for me of &quot;get over it already.&quot;&nbsp; That age issue was a big thing with Dallas TNT as well - I kept thinking &quot;get over it already - grow up&quot; so I certainly see what you&#039;re saying with the original.&nbsp; Again, I didn&#039;t mind the younger kids stuff because it was just side line stuff.&nbsp; I agree I don&#039;t want too much of that kind of thing.&nbsp; There roles were just reoccurring and way to young to be the meat of the show.I don&#039;t agree with the time jump.&nbsp; BUT they didn&#039;t need it.&nbsp; They had Lucy.&nbsp; If they had played her character right, much of the show could have been about her and those her age.&nbsp; J . R. finally gets to sit in Jock&#039;s seat, he&#039;s married to Sue Ellen and the drama between them is over - they settle into the patriarch and matriarch roles.&nbsp; &nbsp; Lucy, done with school is trying to find her role in the business, holding onto 10% of the company.&nbsp; Jack could have been younger, what role would he play?&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t have minded James if the story had been better and more interesting - even a long lost kidnapped son story would have been an improvement.&nbsp; Over all I get your point - there was a huge age gap with JR having kids so late in life.&nbsp; By the mid eighties JR should have been Jock in one form or another and something around that should have been in play with people in their 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s taking the reins as the next generation.&nbsp; Of course the fact that no matter what they do John Ross is the heir apparent would be a thorn in everyone&#039;s side.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stevew, post: 282950, member: 130"] I do get your point, but there are certainly plenty of real life examples of men like JR now and then. The thing really is real life or not did it work for the show and I agree that it did not. By the time you get to the movies and JR starts with sex I was totally unimpressed. It's not like we saw Angela Channing bed hopping. It just doesn't make good tv. And I agree with JR and Cliff - it should have been left for comic relief on occasion, no more. As for Miss Ellie, I did get her point, her insecurities and I thought that was palatable as a side sorry and maybe many older women did relate and did appreciate it. But again, at best a side story. With BBG health issue, I so no reason for story lines beyond occasional appearance. "JR leave me out of this. I have nothing to do with Ewing Oil any more, keep all this fighting at the office." That should have been it - certainly much better than brining on Donna Reed - just make her a reoccurring cast member, no need to story lines. And Bobby and Pam getting back together for me was more a bit deal that the characters were able to put so much behind them and give it another go, more than the big deal of a Romeo and Juliet story it once was, but I agree there was a bit of a feel for me of "get over it already." That age issue was a big thing with Dallas TNT as well - I kept thinking "get over it already - grow up" so I certainly see what you're saying with the original. Again, I didn't mind the younger kids stuff because it was just side line stuff. I agree I don't want too much of that kind of thing. There roles were just reoccurring and way to young to be the meat of the show. I don't agree with the time jump. BUT they didn't need it. They had Lucy. If they had played her character right, much of the show could have been about her and those her age. J . R. finally gets to sit in Jock's seat, he's married to Sue Ellen and the drama between them is over - they settle into the patriarch and matriarch roles. Lucy, done with school is trying to find her role in the business, holding onto 10% of the company. Jack could have been younger, what role would he play? I wouldn't have minded James if the story had been better and more interesting - even a long lost kidnapped son story would have been an improvement. Over all I get your point - there was a huge age gap with JR having kids so late in life. By the mid eighties JR should have been Jock in one form or another and something around that should have been in play with people in their 20's and 30's taking the reins as the next generation. Of course the fact that no matter what they do John Ross is the heir apparent would be a thorn in everyone's side. [/QUOTE]

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