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<blockquote data-quote="stevew" data-source="post: 282952" data-attributes="member: 130">Actually I agree sort of - the show was about the Ewing&#039;s and that&#039;s it.&nbsp; I liked Clayton but if he stayed or left I was fine.&nbsp; The story was about Miss Ellie, Jock, JR, Sue Ellen, Bobby, Pam, John Ross, Chris and Lucy.&nbsp; OK so Jock died and that was that.&nbsp; It was handled well - even excellent.&nbsp; Miss Ellie wasn&#039;t handled so well - never should have brought on Donna Reed and should have allowed her to fade into the background.&nbsp; JR at some point needed to grow up and move on.&nbsp; I would even have been ok with a serious second marriage or just making him and Sue Ellen stable.&nbsp; And Sue Ellen at best could have been a vengeful Alexis type or a devout matriarch.&nbsp; Bobby and Pam needed their own show in my opinion - a second spin off.&nbsp; There wasn&#039;t enough room for JR and Bobby to both be Jock.&nbsp; But if they had left JR dead then Pam being the vengeful Alexis type could have worked.&nbsp; Problem is John Ross and Chris were too young without a major time jump to be of relevance and Lucy they just wrote off.&nbsp; But they could have had Lucy and Jack and Jamie be more - actually taken serious within the business and the family.&nbsp; Lucy imo should have taken on the JR role with a marriage to a grandson of Punk Andersons.&nbsp; Jack could have married Katherine Wentworth and Jamie if she&#039;d had been a lawyer maybe could have taken on a political role and torn in the Ewing&#039;s side.&nbsp; There were characters there - but imo Dallas was the Ewing&#039;s (when TNT tried to make it more it failed miserably).Well said.&nbsp; I always thought Sue Ellen married to Wendell with Wendell having older 20&#039;s/30&#039;s children was a great idea and a great rivalry - where Sue Ellen learns how to run a business and how to be a power play in oil to rival J. R.&nbsp; - hell bent that South Fork should be her&#039;s and her son&#039;s.Which was a way to go too - a marriage more a partnership.&nbsp; Problem was would J. R. accept Sue Ellen&#039;s dalliance&#039;s.&nbsp; It wouldn&#039;t be unrealistic to see them both cheat from time to time as long as discrete.On property could have been realistic, in the same house was TV.I agree - South Fork was a character on its own and many families do live together on the same property.&nbsp; For me the issue wasn&#039;t living together or the importance of the house, but that they didn&#039;t have their own houses on the property - that would have given it more realism for Texas but for many places in the country where people are wealthy and on a single compound.&nbsp; I would expect that a man like Jock and even JR in time would run their &quot;empire&quot; from their home.&nbsp; I would expect that JR would have retired and turned the day to day over to lieutenants and have them come out to the house to meet with him.&nbsp; What we saw from Jock early on as &quot;retired&quot; was very believable to me.&nbsp; Going in every day to &quot;run&quot; the business, not so much.I appreciate your point of view from Texas, certainly most relevant to the show, but this idea of &quot;home&quot; among the very wealthy, even those with homes all over the country, rings true even if no one lives in the house any more.&nbsp; Case in point, the Ford&#039;s here in Michigan still maintain their grandparents home, it belongs to them, it&#039;s open to the public, but it is still their home, the property means something to them in a way that those with out such a &quot;home&quot; don&#039;t often understand.&nbsp; The same can be said for many people I know here in Michigan, a farm &quot;home&quot; or a &quot;cottage&quot; home on a lake up north.&nbsp; There is this sense of &quot;home&quot; that many people can attest to and selling it and moving away from it is NOT an option.I feel what you&#039;re saying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stevew, post: 282952, member: 130"] Actually I agree sort of - the show was about the Ewing's and that's it. I liked Clayton but if he stayed or left I was fine. The story was about Miss Ellie, Jock, JR, Sue Ellen, Bobby, Pam, John Ross, Chris and Lucy. OK so Jock died and that was that. It was handled well - even excellent. Miss Ellie wasn't handled so well - never should have brought on Donna Reed and should have allowed her to fade into the background. JR at some point needed to grow up and move on. I would even have been ok with a serious second marriage or just making him and Sue Ellen stable. And Sue Ellen at best could have been a vengeful Alexis type or a devout matriarch. Bobby and Pam needed their own show in my opinion - a second spin off. There wasn't enough room for JR and Bobby to both be Jock. But if they had left JR dead then Pam being the vengeful Alexis type could have worked. Problem is John Ross and Chris were too young without a major time jump to be of relevance and Lucy they just wrote off. But they could have had Lucy and Jack and Jamie be more - actually taken serious within the business and the family. Lucy imo should have taken on the JR role with a marriage to a grandson of Punk Andersons. Jack could have married Katherine Wentworth and Jamie if she'd had been a lawyer maybe could have taken on a political role and torn in the Ewing's side. There were characters there - but imo Dallas was the Ewing's (when TNT tried to make it more it failed miserably). Well said. I always thought Sue Ellen married to Wendell with Wendell having older 20's/30's children was a great idea and a great rivalry - where Sue Ellen learns how to run a business and how to be a power play in oil to rival J. R. - hell bent that South Fork should be her's and her son's. Which was a way to go too - a marriage more a partnership. Problem was would J. R. accept Sue Ellen's dalliance's. It wouldn't be unrealistic to see them both cheat from time to time as long as discrete. On property could have been realistic, in the same house was TV. I agree - South Fork was a character on its own and many families do live together on the same property. For me the issue wasn't living together or the importance of the house, but that they didn't have their own houses on the property - that would have given it more realism for Texas but for many places in the country where people are wealthy and on a single compound. I would expect that a man like Jock and even JR in time would run their "empire" from their home. I would expect that JR would have retired and turned the day to day over to lieutenants and have them come out to the house to meet with him. What we saw from Jock early on as "retired" was very believable to me. Going in every day to "run" the business, not so much. I appreciate your point of view from Texas, certainly most relevant to the show, but this idea of "home" among the very wealthy, even those with homes all over the country, rings true even if no one lives in the house any more. Case in point, the Ford's here in Michigan still maintain their grandparents home, it belongs to them, it's open to the public, but it is still their home, the property means something to them in a way that those with out such a "home" don't often understand. The same can be said for many people I know here in Michigan, a farm "home" or a "cottage" home on a lake up north. There is this sense of "home" that many people can attest to and selling it and moving away from it is NOT an option. I feel what you're saying. [/QUOTE]

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