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<blockquote data-quote="stevew" data-source="post: 176605" data-attributes="member: 130">I see three issues here: 1) Bobby should have never been killed in the first place and what season 9 could have looked like IF they just created a spin off for Bobby, Pam and Cliff.&nbsp; Would Patrick Duffy taken the opportunity as clearly he was looking to do something different.&nbsp; Was there another was to handle his departure?&nbsp; Certainly.&nbsp; I think the whole killing Bobby off was a terrible idea - followed by the worst idea of avoiding killing Pam and being afraid to do anything.&nbsp; 2) As it was what it was, how should they have brought Bobby back?&nbsp; The answer should never have been the Dream season.&nbsp; I can say replacing Miss Ellie was stupid.&nbsp; I have to say creating a dream season was unbelievable to even be on the table - though hindsight is 20/20 I’m still baffled by this one.&nbsp; 3) but the bigger issue of this thread is since what was done was done, how should Season 9 have played out?&nbsp; I too found the Nero. Stuff over the top but the rest was fine - not great but fine.&nbsp; I for one thing JR wasn’t the same and I was OK with that.&nbsp; He was getting to old to be be the same to me.&nbsp; He need settling down and to become more like his daddy.&nbsp; There was no way to go on for another decade with out the characters evolving.&nbsp; But to be the new Jock, he needed total power not sharing it with Pam.&nbsp; They also didn’t need Angelica, they had Wendell for a villain to the Ewing family, which I’m sure I would have found more enjoyable.&nbsp; To me Pam as a character had run her course and I still think a spin off for called for, taking Christopher and Cliff with her.&nbsp; I wasn’t a fan of the cousins myself but Jamie with Cliff worked.&nbsp; Jack was fine but more as a “go to” man to JR, not a replacement for Bobby.&nbsp; And I’ve have had Jenna pregnant and alone with Lucas, staying at Southfork.&nbsp; Donna would have been a great political foil to JR and her story lines with Ray were very deep and emotional.&nbsp; Maybe bring on an older son JR had kept hidden all these years, a better actor than did with James, and certainly not a woman to be JR’s true love. An older woman of means and power of her own.&nbsp; I think JR as Jock with Sue Ellen as Miss Ellie, living in a house with his momma and her husband off a room down stairs, and his late brothers x and her baby, along with his son and a new son, could have been an interesting household against enemies like Donna, Wendell and his new son’s mother.&nbsp; And this new son could have been every bit the womanizing, Machiavellian character JR had been - or make the character a daughter.&nbsp; With John Ross the young Bobby character.&nbsp; I just think change was in order at this point and they dived in head first and then got nervous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stevew, post: 176605, member: 130"] I see three issues here: 1) Bobby should have never been killed in the first place and what season 9 could have looked like IF they just created a spin off for Bobby, Pam and Cliff. Would Patrick Duffy taken the opportunity as clearly he was looking to do something different. Was there another was to handle his departure? Certainly. I think the whole killing Bobby off was a terrible idea - followed by the worst idea of avoiding killing Pam and being afraid to do anything. 2) As it was what it was, how should they have brought Bobby back? The answer should never have been the Dream season. I can say replacing Miss Ellie was stupid. I have to say creating a dream season was unbelievable to even be on the table - though hindsight is 20/20 I’m still baffled by this one. 3) but the bigger issue of this thread is since what was done was done, how should Season 9 have played out? I too found the Nero. Stuff over the top but the rest was fine - not great but fine. I for one thing JR wasn’t the same and I was OK with that. He was getting to old to be be the same to me. He need settling down and to become more like his daddy. There was no way to go on for another decade with out the characters evolving. But to be the new Jock, he needed total power not sharing it with Pam. They also didn’t need Angelica, they had Wendell for a villain to the Ewing family, which I’m sure I would have found more enjoyable. To me Pam as a character had run her course and I still think a spin off for called for, taking Christopher and Cliff with her. I wasn’t a fan of the cousins myself but Jamie with Cliff worked. Jack was fine but more as a “go to” man to JR, not a replacement for Bobby. And I’ve have had Jenna pregnant and alone with Lucas, staying at Southfork. Donna would have been a great political foil to JR and her story lines with Ray were very deep and emotional. Maybe bring on an older son JR had kept hidden all these years, a better actor than did with James, and certainly not a woman to be JR’s true love. An older woman of means and power of her own. I think JR as Jock with Sue Ellen as Miss Ellie, living in a house with his momma and her husband off a room down stairs, and his late brothers x and her baby, along with his son and a new son, could have been an interesting household against enemies like Donna, Wendell and his new son’s mother. And this new son could have been every bit the womanizing, Machiavellian character JR had been - or make the character a daughter. With John Ross the young Bobby character. I just think change was in order at this point and they dived in head first and then got nervous. [/QUOTE]

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