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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Karin" data-source="post: 197840" data-attributes="member: 57167"><p>I've always thought that Cliff was older than Bobby. The year of birth I would put for Cliff is 1945. That would make him five years older than Pam if she was born in 1950 which is the year I've always thought Pam was born. Others here on the forum has pointed out that Pam was supposed to be born in 1953. But I've always considered Bobby and Pam to be about the same age, with her being slightly younger. JR was definitely older than Cliff. But to say that Cliff was the same age as Bobby is just ridiculous since he really didn't look like it.</p></blockquote><p></p>