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<blockquote data-quote="Karin" data-source="post: 64052" data-attributes="member: 57167"><p>Thank you everyone for your comments. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Crazy about SE and JR,</strong> I also got the impression that Katherine wanted to sleep with JR. I thought they were having an affair. But reading what Presea had to say about it made me think twice and it's possible that I interpret it all wrong or didn't see it for what it really was because I like the character of JR! </p><p></p><p><strong>Presea,</strong> I see the point you are trying to get across about Katherine and JR and I agree with you that sexual coercion is a crime. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p>But well since Dallas is fictional and a lot of people like to root for JR even though he was supposed to be the bad guy, I think a lot of viewers/fans were on his side regardless of what he did. Also as any media text Dallas is open to a multiple of readings and interpretations and your reading of Katherine and JR is interesting and eye opening as it's not the way I would have read it in the first place. But as a feminist I can certainly agree with you that all the sexual blackmail you described is wrong. I think that plots like that shows that Dallas is a product of its time and that it was actually a sexist show. But since it was created by a man, produced by men and mostly directed and written by men maybe that shouldn't be a surprise! </p><p></p><p>I still think the Katherine and JR arrangment was supposed to be entertaining. JR was wicked and the way Larry portrayed him with that boyish charm of his made him very likable. He was like a grown child in some ways. So therefore JR got away with a lot of stuff that a real life person hopefully wouldn't get away with. But yes the way JR treated women was very bad. You bring up Holly Harwood and well when I rewatched the show I got the impression that JR forced himself on Holly the first time. She didn't want him either but instead of just taking it she set up a trap for him to get revenge and then she got the blame for sending Sue Ellen off the deep end and felt bad about it. When it was actually JR that had done her wrong to start with. So it does seem like the women often find themselves on the losing side in Dallas. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Then as for Peter Richards I must admit that I was happy when JR set him up. Probably because he was super annoying and since he did go after a married woman I thought JR as the husband was right in getting rid of the boy who slept with his wife! </p><p>But yeah the way JR treated Sue Ellen at times could be very degrading too. Their relationship was definitely dysfunctional and yet they did love each other and that made them interesting somehow. </p><p></p><p><strong>Ms Southworth, </strong>I am glad that you liked the lastest update and that you think I wrote JR well. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>You are right about the Nelsons of course. JR will find out some of their secrets...</p><p>Then as for the Parkers deal, there is of course more to it than just a shipping deal but what exactly it is you won't find out until they have their meeting...</p><p></p><p>You are right that there are some storylines on hold right now. I think it is because we have so many characters to write for. Also a part of what makes a drama like Dallas good to watch is that there are a lot of storylines going on at the same time that are progressing slowly. I realize that since you don't get a full episode/week it does seem like the storylines are moving very slow right now. But I'm willing to bet that if this was a full season of 25 episodes and you got to watch them over a time span of a year it wouldn't feel as slow. So well we are trying to write this with that in mind. </p><p></p><p>I'm glad that Katherine still fascinates you in this fanfic. She is certainly a great character and a fan favorite. <img src="http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/black/t1607.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":cool1" title="Cool1 :cool1" data-shortname=":cool1" /></p><p></p><p>I also agree with you that it's interesting how differently we all perceive things on the show. I think the fact that we are all fans and that we ship different couples also plays a part in how we perceive things and that our perspectives have been influenced by that. </p><p></p><p><strong>Shan, </strong>I'm not sure if your post was in response to my update or in response to what Presea said but well thanks for weighing in. </p><p></p><p>Okay so the update will be posted in the next post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karin, post: 64052, member: 57167"] Thank you everyone for your comments. :) [B]Crazy about SE and JR,[/B] I also got the impression that Katherine wanted to sleep with JR. I thought they were having an affair. But reading what Presea had to say about it made me think twice and it's possible that I interpret it all wrong or didn't see it for what it really was because I like the character of JR! [B]Presea,[/B] I see the point you are trying to get across about Katherine and JR and I agree with you that sexual coercion is a crime. :( But well since Dallas is fictional and a lot of people like to root for JR even though he was supposed to be the bad guy, I think a lot of viewers/fans were on his side regardless of what he did. Also as any media text Dallas is open to a multiple of readings and interpretations and your reading of Katherine and JR is interesting and eye opening as it's not the way I would have read it in the first place. But as a feminist I can certainly agree with you that all the sexual blackmail you described is wrong. I think that plots like that shows that Dallas is a product of its time and that it was actually a sexist show. But since it was created by a man, produced by men and mostly directed and written by men maybe that shouldn't be a surprise! I still think the Katherine and JR arrangment was supposed to be entertaining. JR was wicked and the way Larry portrayed him with that boyish charm of his made him very likable. He was like a grown child in some ways. So therefore JR got away with a lot of stuff that a real life person hopefully wouldn't get away with. But yes the way JR treated women was very bad. You bring up Holly Harwood and well when I rewatched the show I got the impression that JR forced himself on Holly the first time. She didn't want him either but instead of just taking it she set up a trap for him to get revenge and then she got the blame for sending Sue Ellen off the deep end and felt bad about it. When it was actually JR that had done her wrong to start with. So it does seem like the women often find themselves on the losing side in Dallas. :( Then as for Peter Richards I must admit that I was happy when JR set him up. Probably because he was super annoying and since he did go after a married woman I thought JR as the husband was right in getting rid of the boy who slept with his wife! But yeah the way JR treated Sue Ellen at times could be very degrading too. Their relationship was definitely dysfunctional and yet they did love each other and that made them interesting somehow. [B]Ms Southworth, [/B]I am glad that you liked the lastest update and that you think I wrote JR well. :) You are right about the Nelsons of course. JR will find out some of their secrets... Then as for the Parkers deal, there is of course more to it than just a shipping deal but what exactly it is you won't find out until they have their meeting... You are right that there are some storylines on hold right now. I think it is because we have so many characters to write for. Also a part of what makes a drama like Dallas good to watch is that there are a lot of storylines going on at the same time that are progressing slowly. I realize that since you don't get a full episode/week it does seem like the storylines are moving very slow right now. But I'm willing to bet that if this was a full season of 25 episodes and you got to watch them over a time span of a year it wouldn't feel as slow. So well we are trying to write this with that in mind. I'm glad that Katherine still fascinates you in this fanfic. She is certainly a great character and a fan favorite. :cool1 I also agree with you that it's interesting how differently we all perceive things on the show. I think the fact that we are all fans and that we ship different couples also plays a part in how we perceive things and that our perspectives have been influenced by that. [B]Shan, [/B]I'm not sure if your post was in response to my update or in response to what Presea said but well thanks for weighing in. Okay so the update will be posted in the next post. [/QUOTE]
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