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<blockquote data-quote="Karin" data-source="post: 75101" data-attributes="member: 57167"><p>Thank you so much for all of your comments and detailed feedback. I enjoy reading all of it. :thank:</p><p></p><p>Also this message is about to head into OT as I will join in on your discussion about the Southfork floorplan!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>I agree with <strong>Tommie </strong>that it's really hard to figure it out and that it seems like Miss Ellie and Clayton has the front balcony all to themselves. Jenny and I actually spent some time this summer looking at old episodes while making new drawings of what we think Southfork upstairs and downstairs should look like on the show and in this story and it's not even the first time we've done this and I am sure our drawings are not perfect. But anyway I might as well share them with you all.</p><p></p><p>First of all when Dallas originally began in 1978 the upstairs seemed to look something like this:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]4907[/ATTACH]</p><p>As you can see in the image there is a landing that goes around upstairs next to the front of the house. The landing leads to Pam and Bobby's room and it seems like Lucy would also have her room over there. Above the landing there is front doors that leads into Jock and Miss Ellie's room. We can see Miss Ellie come out of them in the episode where Jock has his heart attack and tell Sue Ellen off as she parades up and down the stairs and pretends to be mistress of the house. JR and Sue Ellen's room are located on the otherside. Later on they built a nursery for John Ross but we have not been able to figure out where it's located as you never see the upstairs hallway. Just the landing and you can tell when they filmed at the actual house or at the set in Hollywood since on the set the roof of the landing above the stairs is higher. When they were in the actual house Patrick had to dodge to be able to walk underneath it! :lolo:</p><p></p><p>Anyway the upstairs hallway only appeared in 1983 a few episodes before the Southfork fire!</p><p>It would have made more sense if it had appeared afterwards. But oh well after the fire the upstairs looked something like this:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]4908[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>It seems like the landing was destroyed in the fire and not rebuilt as Miss Ellie and Clayton's room seems to have shifted places to be right above the front door later on and with direct access to the front balcony. The doors leading to the backyard balcony are in the hallway in between JR and Sue Ellen's room. On the actual house there is a chimney blocking the doors so you don't see them from a distance but on the Hollywood set the chimney was removed.</p><p></p><p>Downstairs looked something like this before the fire:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]4909[/ATTACH]</p><p>The room you can't read what it is in the right corner next to the dining is the kitchen. We guess the exercise room is the one who is next to the office room. But it didn't seem to exist at the same time as the office room and therefore it's likely to conclude that the office room might have been rebuilt into an exercise room after the fire. Although the two rooms didn't resemble each other much.</p><p></p><p>Anyway then as for the sake of this story. We imagine Southfork to look something like this in 1995:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]4910[/ATTACH]</p><p>That is the downstairs. As you can see we've added guest rooms.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]4911[/ATTACH]</p><p>Then this is upstairs. As you can see we've added two additional rooms to the main hallway that you enter from the side. It seems to us like the upstairs had to have more rooms than we saw on the actual show in order to hold all those people living there at the same time. Like for instance in early 1985 Miss Ellie, Clayton, JR, Sue Ellen, Bobby, John Ross, Lucy and Charlie and Jenna were living at Southfork. Christopher also had a nursery. So there had to have been more rooms than what we saw.</p><p></p><p>So well I hope that makes things a bit clearer about the Southfork upstairs floor plan. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Ms Southworth, </strong>I think what confuses you about the backyard balcony going straight into JR/SE's bedroom is the actual Southfork. Because anyone who's visited the ranch house knows that the interior of the actual Southfork and the Southfork we see on the show is nowhere near the same. On the actual Southfork you do in deed go straight into the master bedroom upstairs from the backyard balcony and that is JR/SE's bedroom. But on the show the doors to the backyard balcony are at the back of the upstairs hallway, you can see that really clear in the episode with the Southfork fire when Ray and Bobby pulls JR out that way.</p><p></p><p>Enough about the Southfork floor plans. But feel free to comment if you'd like.</p><p></p><p>As for the Dallas DVD's. I would recommend you to get two more seasons!</p><p>The dream season because of Donna and Ray and JR & Sue Ellen's storylines that seasons. They were both superb.</p><p>The season after the dream season because of Bobby and Pam remarrying. It's odd but I think Dallas season 1 & 2 and 10 (DVD) are actually my most watched seasons. I love, love, love Pam's final season. Just make sure you skip watching the last five minutes of the season so you don't have to watch the crash and it's all good. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Yeah you can assume that all is good with Rebecca and Margaret sharing a room and hence we haven't heard anything more about it.</p><p></p><p>Yeah Becky is 10 years old in this story. Yes Cliff brought this on himself. He really shouldn't have brought Afton and Becky to watch Sue Ellen's movie! <img src="https://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/smileyslaughing_lol_rofl__words_bahaha_100-100.gif?w=150&h=22" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bah:" title="Bah :bah:" data-shortname=":bah:" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Honkytonkangel, </strong>I'm glad that you enjoyed Cliff and Afton finally getting theirs for what they did to Sue Ellen. It served them right, but I do feel sorry for Becky in all this as she's just an innocent child.</p><p></p><p><strong>Miss Texas 1967, </strong>good question. I have no clue if Charlie and Jenna will improve. I mean the way they are perceived are very subjective after all. But I can promise you though that they will get better plots so maybe you will enjoy them more when their plots are more intergrated with the rest of the Ewing family rather than separate from everyone else like they are now...</p><p>I'm happy to hear that Rebecca has grown on you now. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Tommie, </strong>I guess why you don't like season 10 (DVD) is mainly because of the way the writer's broke up Donna and Ray that season. :brick:</p><p></p><p><strong>Pammy,</strong> I am flattered that you think this is good enough to be on TV and it's great that you can see it all being played out by the original actors when you read it. Honestly I can picture it all in my mind when we write it too. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Also like I mentioned in another thread on the board. It's too late to film this now. So the only way this could ever be an official part of the Dallas universe would be if there were an official tie-in book series sort of like the "Soap & Serials" ones from the 1980's... :wink@</p><p>But I don't think that will ever happen since it would have to go through Time-Warner as they bought up Lorimar and owns the right to Dallas. Also I think most of the characters we've adopted legally belongs to David Jacobs.</p><p>Oh well at least this fanfic can be enjoyed by the fans on this board and it pleases me to know that you all enjoy it so much. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Okay an <strong>update</strong> will follow in the next post...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karin, post: 75101, member: 57167"] Thank you so much for all of your comments and detailed feedback. I enjoy reading all of it. :thank: Also this message is about to head into OT as I will join in on your discussion about the Southfork floorplan!:D I agree with [B]Tommie [/B]that it's really hard to figure it out and that it seems like Miss Ellie and Clayton has the front balcony all to themselves. Jenny and I actually spent some time this summer looking at old episodes while making new drawings of what we think Southfork upstairs and downstairs should look like on the show and in this story and it's not even the first time we've done this and I am sure our drawings are not perfect. But anyway I might as well share them with you all. First of all when Dallas originally began in 1978 the upstairs seemed to look something like this: [ATTACH=full]4907[/ATTACH] As you can see in the image there is a landing that goes around upstairs next to the front of the house. The landing leads to Pam and Bobby's room and it seems like Lucy would also have her room over there. Above the landing there is front doors that leads into Jock and Miss Ellie's room. We can see Miss Ellie come out of them in the episode where Jock has his heart attack and tell Sue Ellen off as she parades up and down the stairs and pretends to be mistress of the house. JR and Sue Ellen's room are located on the otherside. Later on they built a nursery for John Ross but we have not been able to figure out where it's located as you never see the upstairs hallway. Just the landing and you can tell when they filmed at the actual house or at the set in Hollywood since on the set the roof of the landing above the stairs is higher. When they were in the actual house Patrick had to dodge to be able to walk underneath it! :lolo: Anyway the upstairs hallway only appeared in 1983 a few episodes before the Southfork fire! It would have made more sense if it had appeared afterwards. But oh well after the fire the upstairs looked something like this: [ATTACH=full]4908[/ATTACH] It seems like the landing was destroyed in the fire and not rebuilt as Miss Ellie and Clayton's room seems to have shifted places to be right above the front door later on and with direct access to the front balcony. The doors leading to the backyard balcony are in the hallway in between JR and Sue Ellen's room. On the actual house there is a chimney blocking the doors so you don't see them from a distance but on the Hollywood set the chimney was removed. Downstairs looked something like this before the fire: [ATTACH=full]4909[/ATTACH] The room you can't read what it is in the right corner next to the dining is the kitchen. We guess the exercise room is the one who is next to the office room. But it didn't seem to exist at the same time as the office room and therefore it's likely to conclude that the office room might have been rebuilt into an exercise room after the fire. Although the two rooms didn't resemble each other much. Anyway then as for the sake of this story. We imagine Southfork to look something like this in 1995: [ATTACH=full]4910[/ATTACH] That is the downstairs. As you can see we've added guest rooms. [ATTACH=full]4911[/ATTACH] Then this is upstairs. As you can see we've added two additional rooms to the main hallway that you enter from the side. It seems to us like the upstairs had to have more rooms than we saw on the actual show in order to hold all those people living there at the same time. Like for instance in early 1985 Miss Ellie, Clayton, JR, Sue Ellen, Bobby, John Ross, Lucy and Charlie and Jenna were living at Southfork. Christopher also had a nursery. So there had to have been more rooms than what we saw. So well I hope that makes things a bit clearer about the Southfork upstairs floor plan. :) [B]Ms Southworth, [/B]I think what confuses you about the backyard balcony going straight into JR/SE's bedroom is the actual Southfork. Because anyone who's visited the ranch house knows that the interior of the actual Southfork and the Southfork we see on the show is nowhere near the same. On the actual Southfork you do in deed go straight into the master bedroom upstairs from the backyard balcony and that is JR/SE's bedroom. But on the show the doors to the backyard balcony are at the back of the upstairs hallway, you can see that really clear in the episode with the Southfork fire when Ray and Bobby pulls JR out that way. Enough about the Southfork floor plans. But feel free to comment if you'd like. As for the Dallas DVD's. I would recommend you to get two more seasons! The dream season because of Donna and Ray and JR & Sue Ellen's storylines that seasons. They were both superb. The season after the dream season because of Bobby and Pam remarrying. It's odd but I think Dallas season 1 & 2 and 10 (DVD) are actually my most watched seasons. I love, love, love Pam's final season. Just make sure you skip watching the last five minutes of the season so you don't have to watch the crash and it's all good. :) Yeah you can assume that all is good with Rebecca and Margaret sharing a room and hence we haven't heard anything more about it. Yeah Becky is 10 years old in this story. Yes Cliff brought this on himself. He really shouldn't have brought Afton and Becky to watch Sue Ellen's movie! :bah: [B]Honkytonkangel, [/B]I'm glad that you enjoyed Cliff and Afton finally getting theirs for what they did to Sue Ellen. It served them right, but I do feel sorry for Becky in all this as she's just an innocent child. [B]Miss Texas 1967, [/B]good question. I have no clue if Charlie and Jenna will improve. I mean the way they are perceived are very subjective after all. But I can promise you though that they will get better plots so maybe you will enjoy them more when their plots are more intergrated with the rest of the Ewing family rather than separate from everyone else like they are now... I'm happy to hear that Rebecca has grown on you now. :) [B]Tommie, [/B]I guess why you don't like season 10 (DVD) is mainly because of the way the writer's broke up Donna and Ray that season. :brick: [B]Pammy,[/B] I am flattered that you think this is good enough to be on TV and it's great that you can see it all being played out by the original actors when you read it. Honestly I can picture it all in my mind when we write it too. :) Also like I mentioned in another thread on the board. It's too late to film this now. So the only way this could ever be an official part of the Dallas universe would be if there were an official tie-in book series sort of like the "Soap & Serials" ones from the 1980's... :wink@ But I don't think that will ever happen since it would have to go through Time-Warner as they bought up Lorimar and owns the right to Dallas. Also I think most of the characters we've adopted legally belongs to David Jacobs. Oh well at least this fanfic can be enjoyed by the fans on this board and it pleases me to know that you all enjoy it so much. :) Okay an [B]update[/B] will follow in the next post... [/QUOTE]
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