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<blockquote data-quote="Karin" data-source="post: 80700" data-attributes="member: 57167"><p>Thank you everyone for the feedback. I always enjoy reading your comments. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Presea, </strong>I'm glad that you think the Martha plot seems interesting so far and yeah we needed to give Jenna something to do before she meet up with Ray again. But believe me it will happen and when it makes the most sense too. It's just a question of timing. </p><p></p><p>Well spotted that the Bobby and Pam scene sort of pays homage to the scene in the Early Years movie. <img src="http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/misc/m0719.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hat:" title="Hat :hat:" data-shortname=":hat:" /></p><p>And yeah sorry Bobby and Pam was the first tv couple I ever shipped so yeah they do get their "worship" moments. Jenny is not as fond of them as I am however and jokingly knicknamed them "smörbyttorna" when we were watching the show, which meant that she thought they were too cheesy at times. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>You are right that if JR and Sue Ellen would get back together now things would go to hell pretty soon...</p><p>So Sue Ellen is well aware of that with their track record it's not a good idea. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see why you want to get rid of him and believe me the character is designed to be annoying. So the fact that you don't like him just means that we've accomplished our goal, which was to create a character that even made Cliff Barnes look good when compared to Mario! :lolo:</p><p></p><p><strong>Ms Southworth, </strong>thank you for explaining how you define main character vs. supporting characers I found it interesting to read. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I should have known that it was Jenna, Charlie, Lucas and Randy that you didn't count as main characters. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p>I guess your dislike of the Jenna character has made you somewhat biased. But yeah whether you like it or not Jenna and her family do play an important role in this story and once they get more intergrated with the Ewing family I think even you will agree on that they are main characters... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I guess this story like many other stories and even tv show does have its fair share of "filler scenes" that might not seem that important but that still are there and contributes to the feel of the show on a whole. So well I don't mind it if you view the Afton and Mario scenes or even the Jenna scenes as fillers. I guess we all have our favorites and depending upon that certain scenes will seem more important to one reader than another. There's nothing wrong with that. </p><p></p><p>I agree that Bobby/Pam and JR/SE are truly enjoying their night out. It's not just for show. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I'm glad you enjoyed the reference to Pam breaking the windows in the Ewing building. I think it was Cliff who pointed it out to her in "Digger's Daughter" that she used to be even worse than him when it came to breaking the windows in the Ewing building downtown. I just love that episode. It provided us with so much character depth and most of it was subtle and not in your face. I love the way these characters were introduced to us. <img src="http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/misc/m0719.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hat:" title="Hat :hat:" data-shortname=":hat:" /></p><p>I guess that when Pam married Bobby she wanted to leave that part of her life where she was breaking windows and such behind her. She was probably ashamed about it and didn't want her new family to find out since she wanted to fit in with them and wanted to earn their respect. Also considering how much tension the Barnes-Ewing feud created and the strain it put on Bobby and Pam's marriage I don't think it's so hard to believe that Pam never mentioned the window breaking to Bobby before. </p><p></p><p>Yeah nobody can tell someone off the way Miss Ellie can. I love it when she's all feisty. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Honestly just because your son's bike was unlocked it doesn't give someone else the right to steal his property. :mo:</p><p>So even if he made a mistake in leaving it unlocked I don't think he's really to blame for the bike being stolen. Heck if someone really wanted to steal the bike they could have done so even if it had been locked. But we're getting off topic here...</p><p></p><p>Then as for Bobby and Guzzler. Yeah Bobby made a mistake and finding out about it could have ruined their evening. But luckily JR decided to let it slide for now. So I guess in a way Bobby and Pam picked the right time to tell JR when he was drunk and wouldn't make such a fuss about it. <img src="https://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/smileyslaughing_lol_hehe_100-102.gif?w=145&h=150" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":giggle:" title="Giggle :giggle:" data-shortname=":giggle:" /></p><p>You are right that he might be more annoyed about the bad deal once he's sobered up...</p><p></p><p>"I know him so well" from Chess is a great song. I actually used it for a JR/SE/Mandy triangle video many years ago... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Sanda,</strong> I'm glad that you are enjoying the double date. I think occasionally they did have double date scenes on original Dallas too but it was mostly B/P and D/R or B/J and D/R that went out together. Not JR/SE and Bobby and Pam as I seem to recall. </p><p></p><p>Also I agree with you that Miss Ellie and Clayton are great grandparents. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Okay so it's time for an <strong>update: </strong></p><p></p><p>Back at <em>The beer king</em> Martha ended her story saying, “So can you help me?”</p><p></p><p>Jenna sighed, “Oh boy, I guess I can try.”</p><p></p><p>“Thank you,” Martha said.</p><p></p><p>Jenna nodded, “Okay so first thing we need to do is to get you moved in with us.”</p><p></p><p>“Are you sure?” Martha asked. “I mean you have a young son. I don’t wanna put him in danger.” </p><p></p><p>“Yes I’m sure. You can’t go back. But don’t tell the kids what’s going on.” </p><p></p><p>“Oh I wouldn’t dream of it. The less they know about this the better,” Martha said.</p><p></p><p>“Exactly,” Jenna agreed. “So you just tell them you wanna spend some time with your niece.”</p><p></p><p>“Yeah, that works,” Martha said.</p><p></p><p>“Okay let’s go then,” Jenna said and they got up walking towards the exit. However on the way out Jenna bumped into Randy who was out with some of his friends drinking beer and shooting pool. Jenna gave him a surprised look, “Randy?”</p><p></p><p>“Mrs. Krebbs,” Randy gave her an equally surprised look before he put down his beer bottle. “What are you doing here?”</p><p></p><p>“Just eating dinner with an old friend but what are you doing here?”</p><p></p><p>“Just out shooting pool with the guys,” Randy replied.</p><p></p><p>“So does Charlie know your here?”</p><p></p><p>“She knows I’m with my friends.”</p><p></p><p>“But does she know you’re here?” Jenna asked. “Randy this isn’t a nice place.”</p><p></p><p>“I know that but I can handle myself. Right now I am actually more concerned for you. I mean this place ain’t lady friendly.”</p><p></p><p>“Who cares this place is great for picking up chicks?” One of Randy’s friends, who had just come up to them said. “Cheap chicks,” he put his arms around Martha and Jenna. “Don’t mind sharing right Randy?”</p><p></p><p>Jenna shuddered and pulled back before giving the guy a slap in the face! He looked surprised and let go of Martha and one of his friends said, “Oh she’s a tough chick too!”</p><p></p><p>“But a little too old though!” Another one of Randy’s friends said.</p><p></p><p>“Chase you’re an idiot! This is Charlie’s mom,” Randy said annoyed.</p><p></p><p>“Oops! Sorry,” Chase said and hurried to get away.</p><p></p><p>“I’m sorry about that,” Randy said embarrassed.</p><p></p><p>“So are you here picking up chicks too?!” Jenna asked angrily.</p><p></p><p>“Of course not,” Randy snorted. “You know I love your daughter.”</p><p></p><p>“Good keep it that way,” Jenna said. “Listen I want you to do me a favor. Don’t tell Charlie you saw me here.”</p><p></p><p>“What?” Randy looked surprised, “But…”</p><p></p><p>“I don’t have time to explain. But as far as we’re concerned you’ve never seen me here and you’ve never seen her either. Okay?”</p><p></p><p>Randy looked confused from Jenna to Martha and back to Jenna. “Okay I…”</p><p></p><p>“Great and in return I won’t tell Charlie I saw you here ‘cause knowing my daughter she would not approve of this place!” Jenna said before she and Martha walked away and Randy bit his lip. Over in a corner a man, that had taken careful notes of the conversation, stood up and left the bar.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karin, post: 80700, member: 57167"] Thank you everyone for the feedback. I always enjoy reading your comments. :) [B]Presea, [/B]I'm glad that you think the Martha plot seems interesting so far and yeah we needed to give Jenna something to do before she meet up with Ray again. But believe me it will happen and when it makes the most sense too. It's just a question of timing. Well spotted that the Bobby and Pam scene sort of pays homage to the scene in the Early Years movie. :hat: And yeah sorry Bobby and Pam was the first tv couple I ever shipped so yeah they do get their "worship" moments. Jenny is not as fond of them as I am however and jokingly knicknamed them "smörbyttorna" when we were watching the show, which meant that she thought they were too cheesy at times. ;) You are right that if JR and Sue Ellen would get back together now things would go to hell pretty soon... So Sue Ellen is well aware of that with their track record it's not a good idea. I can see why you want to get rid of him and believe me the character is designed to be annoying. So the fact that you don't like him just means that we've accomplished our goal, which was to create a character that even made Cliff Barnes look good when compared to Mario! :lolo: [B]Ms Southworth, [/B]thank you for explaining how you define main character vs. supporting characers I found it interesting to read. :) I should have known that it was Jenna, Charlie, Lucas and Randy that you didn't count as main characters. :rolleyes: I guess your dislike of the Jenna character has made you somewhat biased. But yeah whether you like it or not Jenna and her family do play an important role in this story and once they get more intergrated with the Ewing family I think even you will agree on that they are main characters... ;) I guess this story like many other stories and even tv show does have its fair share of "filler scenes" that might not seem that important but that still are there and contributes to the feel of the show on a whole. So well I don't mind it if you view the Afton and Mario scenes or even the Jenna scenes as fillers. I guess we all have our favorites and depending upon that certain scenes will seem more important to one reader than another. There's nothing wrong with that. I agree that Bobby/Pam and JR/SE are truly enjoying their night out. It's not just for show. :) I'm glad you enjoyed the reference to Pam breaking the windows in the Ewing building. I think it was Cliff who pointed it out to her in "Digger's Daughter" that she used to be even worse than him when it came to breaking the windows in the Ewing building downtown. I just love that episode. It provided us with so much character depth and most of it was subtle and not in your face. I love the way these characters were introduced to us. :hat: I guess that when Pam married Bobby she wanted to leave that part of her life where she was breaking windows and such behind her. She was probably ashamed about it and didn't want her new family to find out since she wanted to fit in with them and wanted to earn their respect. Also considering how much tension the Barnes-Ewing feud created and the strain it put on Bobby and Pam's marriage I don't think it's so hard to believe that Pam never mentioned the window breaking to Bobby before. Yeah nobody can tell someone off the way Miss Ellie can. I love it when she's all feisty. :) Honestly just because your son's bike was unlocked it doesn't give someone else the right to steal his property. :mo: So even if he made a mistake in leaving it unlocked I don't think he's really to blame for the bike being stolen. Heck if someone really wanted to steal the bike they could have done so even if it had been locked. But we're getting off topic here... Then as for Bobby and Guzzler. Yeah Bobby made a mistake and finding out about it could have ruined their evening. But luckily JR decided to let it slide for now. So I guess in a way Bobby and Pam picked the right time to tell JR when he was drunk and wouldn't make such a fuss about it. :giggle: You are right that he might be more annoyed about the bad deal once he's sobered up... "I know him so well" from Chess is a great song. I actually used it for a JR/SE/Mandy triangle video many years ago... ;) [B]Sanda,[/B] I'm glad that you are enjoying the double date. I think occasionally they did have double date scenes on original Dallas too but it was mostly B/P and D/R or B/J and D/R that went out together. Not JR/SE and Bobby and Pam as I seem to recall. Also I agree with you that Miss Ellie and Clayton are great grandparents. :) Okay so it's time for an [B]update: [/B] Back at [I]The beer king[/I] Martha ended her story saying, “So can you help me?” Jenna sighed, “Oh boy, I guess I can try.” “Thank you,” Martha said. Jenna nodded, “Okay so first thing we need to do is to get you moved in with us.” “Are you sure?” Martha asked. “I mean you have a young son. I don’t wanna put him in danger.” “Yes I’m sure. You can’t go back. But don’t tell the kids what’s going on.” “Oh I wouldn’t dream of it. The less they know about this the better,” Martha said. “Exactly,” Jenna agreed. “So you just tell them you wanna spend some time with your niece.” “Yeah, that works,” Martha said. “Okay let’s go then,” Jenna said and they got up walking towards the exit. However on the way out Jenna bumped into Randy who was out with some of his friends drinking beer and shooting pool. Jenna gave him a surprised look, “Randy?” “Mrs. Krebbs,” Randy gave her an equally surprised look before he put down his beer bottle. “What are you doing here?” “Just eating dinner with an old friend but what are you doing here?” “Just out shooting pool with the guys,” Randy replied. “So does Charlie know your here?” “She knows I’m with my friends.” “But does she know you’re here?” Jenna asked. “Randy this isn’t a nice place.” “I know that but I can handle myself. Right now I am actually more concerned for you. I mean this place ain’t lady friendly.” “Who cares this place is great for picking up chicks?” One of Randy’s friends, who had just come up to them said. “Cheap chicks,” he put his arms around Martha and Jenna. “Don’t mind sharing right Randy?” Jenna shuddered and pulled back before giving the guy a slap in the face! He looked surprised and let go of Martha and one of his friends said, “Oh she’s a tough chick too!” “But a little too old though!” Another one of Randy’s friends said. “Chase you’re an idiot! This is Charlie’s mom,” Randy said annoyed. “Oops! Sorry,” Chase said and hurried to get away. “I’m sorry about that,” Randy said embarrassed. “So are you here picking up chicks too?!” Jenna asked angrily. “Of course not,” Randy snorted. “You know I love your daughter.” “Good keep it that way,” Jenna said. “Listen I want you to do me a favor. Don’t tell Charlie you saw me here.” “What?” Randy looked surprised, “But…” “I don’t have time to explain. But as far as we’re concerned you’ve never seen me here and you’ve never seen her either. Okay?” Randy looked confused from Jenna to Martha and back to Jenna. “Okay I…” “Great and in return I won’t tell Charlie I saw you here ‘cause knowing my daughter she would not approve of this place!” Jenna said before she and Martha walked away and Randy bit his lip. Over in a corner a man, that had taken careful notes of the conversation, stood up and left the bar. [B] [/B] [/QUOTE]
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