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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 332410" data-attributes="member: 57984">Remember that Katzman was tracking the show in Spring 1986 with anticipation of him taking it back over, so he had some say in how the season wrapped up (just as Peter Dunne was tracking the show in the final episodes before Bobby &quot;died&quot; in 1985, in anticipation that he would be taking over the show)Almost everything in the dream season was probably something Katzman hated or likely hated. Katzman also created the character of Angelica Nero (which some have theorized he did to prevent Pam&#039;s tenure at Ewing Oil from being as explosive as it should have been -- and, if so, shame on Uncle Lenny) but he had no control over the plots that year, despite being listed as a &quot;creative consultant&quot; at the end of the closing credits... He reviled how the dream season became &quot;a woman&#039;s show&quot; like DYNASTY -- and had a point: he wasn&#039;t just being chauvinistic, but the term &quot;woman&#039;s show&quot; in this context didn&#039;t mean &quot;strong women&quot; but pseudo-strong women BS which goes nowhere. And that&#039;s a real thing.In that context, DYNASTY and dream-season DALLAS were absolutely &quot;women&#039;s shows&quot; while KNOTS LANDING, with far stronger female characters, was not &quot;a woman&#039;s show.&quot;David Jacobs also said, I think correctly, that Katzman &quot;would have hated&quot; nuDALLAS 2012/2014, &quot;he just would have,&quot; and probably for roughly the same reasons.Some of Katzman&#039;s reasons were sound, as I had much the same issues with the dream season at the time (and I haven&#039;t seen it in years). But Katzman&#039;s views weren&#039;t sacrosanct, because we saw what happened to DALLAS in the final years after Paulsen left. (If only Paulsen had been allowed to take over Katzman&#039;s job when Lenny, Duffy and Art Lewis left in 1985 -- Paulsen said Katzman asserted something like: well, I guess it&#039;s your show now. But I suspect in my paranoid conspiratorial brain that Katzman didn&#039;t really want Paulsen to take over the series because he knew Paulsen would have done a good job and thus made it harder for Katzman to return a year later -- which was probably Uncle Lenny&#039;s plan all along... And even when Katzman did return with Duffy, and he cleverly brought Paulsen back with him, he kept Paulsen secondary to Calvin Clements Jr and then Art Lewis who returned a year later... So it&#039;s no wonder Paulsen quit in 1988, especially when it became obvious that Lenny &amp; Larry were looking to turn DALLAS semi-comical from there on out, and they did).If I were tracking the end of the 85/86 season, which Katzman was allowed to do, the only major change I would do would be to have Ray and Donna lose custody of adorable Tony, paving the way for the next season to start with Donna back in Southfork, discovers she&#039;s pregnant with Ray&#039;s baby again, and their marriage problems are renewed afresh once again.Everything else I could undo in 1 1/2 episodes, but nobody asked me.Anyway, Katzman complained that &quot;JR was deceived by women&quot; in the dream season, which seems kind of silly, but Lenny probably meant &quot;for too long&quot; and he&#039;s probably right.<img src="https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.59895c54dfa9286a79d9301a33e25605?rik=85ZiWmaUJ9NeHw&amp;pid=ImgRaw&amp;r=0" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 332410, member: 57984"] Remember that Katzman was tracking the show in Spring 1986 with anticipation of him taking it back over, so he had some say in how the season wrapped up (just as Peter Dunne was tracking the show in the final episodes before Bobby "died" in 1985, in anticipation that he would be taking over the show) Almost everything in the dream season was probably something Katzman hated or likely hated. Katzman also created the character of Angelica Nero (which some have theorized he did to prevent Pam's tenure at Ewing Oil from being as explosive as it should have been -- and, if so, shame on Uncle Lenny) but he had no control over the plots that year, despite being listed as a "creative consultant" at the end of the closing credits... He reviled how the dream season became "a woman's show" like DYNASTY -- and had a point: he wasn't just being chauvinistic, but the term "woman's show" in this context didn't mean "strong women" but pseudo-strong women BS which goes nowhere. And that's a real thing. In that context, DYNASTY and dream-season DALLAS were absolutely "women's shows" while KNOTS LANDING, with far stronger female characters, was [B][I]not [/I][/B]"a woman's show." David Jacobs also said, I think correctly, that Katzman "would have hated" nuDALLAS 2012/2014, "he just would have," and probably for roughly the same reasons. Some of Katzman's reasons were sound, as I had much the same issues with the dream season at the time (and I haven't seen it in years). But Katzman's views weren't sacrosanct, because we saw what happened to DALLAS in the final years after Paulsen left. (If only Paulsen had been allowed to take over Katzman's job when Lenny, Duffy and Art Lewis left in 1985 -- Paulsen said Katzman asserted something like:[I] well, I guess it's your show now[/I]. But I suspect in my paranoid conspiratorial brain that Katzman didn't really want Paulsen to take over the series because he knew Paulsen would have done a good job and thus made it harder for Katzman to return a year later -- which was probably Uncle Lenny's plan all along... And even when Katzman did return with Duffy, and he cleverly brought Paulsen back with him, he kept Paulsen secondary to Calvin Clements Jr and then Art Lewis who returned a year later... So it's no wonder Paulsen quit in 1988, especially when it became obvious that Lenny & Larry were looking to turn DALLAS semi-comical from there on out, and they did). If I were tracking the end of the 85/86 season, which Katzman was allowed to do, the only major change I would do would be to have Ray and Donna lose custody of adorable Tony, paving the way for the next season to start with Donna back in Southfork, discovers she's pregnant with Ray's baby again, and their marriage problems are renewed afresh once again. Everything else I could undo in 1 1/2 episodes, but nobody asked me. Anyway, Katzman complained that "JR was deceived by women" in the dream season, which seems kind of silly, but Lenny probably meant "for too long" and he's probably right. [IMG]https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.59895c54dfa9286a79d9301a33e25605?rik=85ZiWmaUJ9NeHw&pid=ImgRaw&r=0[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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