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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kenny Coyote" data-source="post: 223909" data-attributes="member: 102">Do you mind if I ask your native language? I think your English is quite good! I am always impressed with the English skills of people who post here to whom English is a second or even third language. Some of them write at a level at or above that of some people here whose native language is English!The thing that I notice with Ellie is that she places her love of her land at or even sometimes above her love of people! It surprises me because the show portrays her in such a positive light, almost as an ideal woman. That's the feeling I get from the show - that we are supposed to think Miss Ellie is very close to being an ideal woman.With Jock I get the idea the show wants us to see him as a good, highly productive, hard working man but whose relationships with people make him somewhat less of an ideal man than Ellie is an ideal woman. Again, this is strictly how I think the show wants us to think of them and not as I think of them.I think they're both good people but I would place Jock above Ellie in terms of how close they are to being ideal. The difference maker here is a vindictiveness I see on Ellie's part that Jock doesn't have. Ellie tells JR: "I may never forgive you" because he mortgaged Southfork, even though they not only didn't lose Southfork, but JR made them billionaires in the process. She's furious because JR even put Southfork in danger. How furious was Ellie at Sue Ellen when she almost killed her son? Not even furious!!! Just "disappointed." I find that a very warped sense of priorities on Ellie's part. Almost losing her land made her despondent but her son being shot three times, barely warranted a five minute visit from Ellie to JR while he was in the hospital.Jock loved Ewing Oil and understandably so- it was the culmination of his life's work. Still, I never heard him say to JR or Bobby after a deal gone bad: "I may never forgive you." I got the sense he would be temporarily very angry but wouldn't hold a long term grudge against them for a business deal gone wrong. Miss Ellie didn't consider that what Ewing Oil meant to Jock as being as important as Southfork was to her, even though Southfork was something that was given to her - not earned. Jock saved Southfork from being auctioned off. Jock was the reason Miss Ellie had Southfork and I think she forgot that. She told Jock (when JR was recovering from being shot by Kristin) that she wanted Jock to keep Bobby at Southfork no matter what and she said she "I don't give a damn about what it does to Ewing Oil."Reverse the situations and suppose Jock said that he wanted JR to experience hitting the biggest gusher in Texas history, and proposed he accomplish it by drilling on section 40. If Jock had said: "I want JR to experience true success as an oilman and I don't give a damn about what it does to Southfork" can you imagine Ellie's reaction?Ellie said nasty things to Jock and JR like when she said: "You both sicken me." Jock never said anything like that to Miss Ellie or his sons.</blockquote>

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