Grace Van Owen on Dallas and Grace Van Owen on L A Law?

[Priscilla]

How did that happen? "Grace" was Angelica's partner in crime in the dream season, and Grace Van Owen was a character on L.A. Law, later in the year. Has anyone else noticed, or is this old news? I noticed on IMDB.

 

[Monzo]

I always thought both of Angelica's partners in crime (Grace and Nicholas) had first names only. I liked Dallas Grace more than LA Law Grace, but Susan Dey was better at acting than Merete van Kamp. Still, it's a great coincidence that two shows came up with such an extraordinary name at the same time.

 

[Seaviewer]

I never thought about it but is Grace such an uncommon name?

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

How did that happen? "Grace" was Angelica's partner in crime in the dream season, and Grace Van Owen was a character on L.A. Law, later in the year. Has anyone else noticed, or is this old news? I noticed on IMDB.

Not sure of any connection but I didn't notice

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I never thought about it but is Grace such an uncommon name?

Might be a good thread. Characters named Grace

 

[Priscilla]

I never thought about it but is Grace such an uncommon name?

Not so much that Grace is an uncommon name, but if you look at IMDB, the names are Grace Van Owen, both on Dallas, AND L A Law. Same last names? I never heard Grace's last name on Dallas though, even though it's listed as Van Owen.

 

[Chris2]

imdb’s data comes from its readers, so it wouldn’t surprise me if someone was having a little fun and submitted a change to the Dallas page to make Grace’s last name “Van Owen”.

Either that or Steven Bochco was secretly a big Dallas fan and stole a name when he created LA Law a year later.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

I always thought both of Angelica's partners in crime (Grace and Nicholas) had first names only.

man, I hope Nicholas doesn’t turn out to have had a last name. What would we learn next? That he didn’t have glorious hair? That he didn’t truly have a passion for solitude?!?

 

[Willie Oleson]

imdb’s data comes from its readers, so it wouldn’t surprise me if someone was having a little fun and submitted a change to the Dallas page to make Grace’s last name “Van Owen”.

I've checked various scenes in which Grace was introduced to new Dallas characters (new to her, of course) but the most elaborate description I got was Assistant Grace. Later, she told Jack that she was an engineer. He already knew her as "someone from Marinos Shipping" and naturally that had to be Princess Daisy feeding bread to little duckies. Must have been some kind of code.
I haven't watched everything so I don't know if her credit changed to "as Grace van Owen" in later episodes.

It's possible that an IMDB user changed the name just for the fun of it, or maybe he/she was subconsciously inspired by the "van" in "van Kamp".

Pam becomes a Ewing Oil tycoonette and the first thing she asks Phyllis to do is to make her a cup of herbal tea. What a crap tv show!

 

[Toni]

I think the "van Owen" part was specified in the "Dallas" scripts. Also, Merete van Kamp does confirm this in her "Dallas Fanzine" interview, as well as the intentional lesbian vibes between Da Nero woman and Grace!

"Grace darling, can you give me a massage?"​

 

[Willie Oleson]

I think the "van Owen" part was specified in the "Dallas" scripts

Any concrete evidence, pictures perhaps? We need to settle this once and for all.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Any concrete evidence, pictures perhaps? We need to settle this once and for all.

Oh yeah and Wes Parmalee wasn't Jock Ewing at all!