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<blockquote data-quote="Mustard" data-source="post: 336734" data-attributes="member: 46">It is.Partly. Gary also feels that Jock let him down. Gary will express regret that he wasn&#039;t stronger, but he won&#039;t go to Ray&#039;s lengths with self-pity or deference.No. What on Earth put that idea in your head about J.R.? A 17-year-old Gary met 15-year-old Valene in a diner after rowing with his family that day. They got married just 3 days later and spent months by themselves. Val was pregnant with Lucy (Gary being the father) before pestering Gary to take her to Southfork to meet his family. She later called this the biggest mistake of her life. J.R. hated Val more than anyone at that time, a poor trashy girl who dared to have the first grandchild of Jock Ewing&#039;s?! Jock was like &quot;Gary, you&#039;ve got responsibilities now, being a husband and father, so you make damn sure you take care of them, or you&#039;ll have me to answer to&quot;. Gary&#039;s instinct now when confronted with all this responsibility is to start withdrawing, start drinking, perhaps run away.She did, but she didn&#039;t die on the hill for it, which she later regretted.What would Jock and J.R. have done if Miss Ellie had stepped up her protests further? Would it be worth the sacrifice? These are important questions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustard, post: 336734, member: 46"] It is. Partly. Gary also feels that Jock let him down. Gary will express regret that he wasn't stronger, but he won't go to Ray's lengths with self-pity or deference. No. What on Earth put that idea in your head about J.R.? A 17-year-old Gary met 15-year-old Valene in a diner after rowing with his family that day. They got married just 3 days later and spent months by themselves. Val was pregnant with Lucy (Gary being the father) before pestering Gary to take her to Southfork to meet his family. She later called this the biggest mistake of her life. J.R. hated Val more than anyone at that time, a poor trashy girl who dared to have the first grandchild of Jock Ewing's?! Jock was like "Gary, you've got responsibilities now, being a husband and father, so you make damn sure you take care of them, or you'll have me to answer to". Gary's instinct now when confronted with all this responsibility is to start withdrawing, start drinking, perhaps run away. She did, but she didn't die on the hill for it, which she later regretted. What would Jock and J.R. have done if Miss Ellie had stepped up her protests further? Would it be worth the sacrifice? These are important questions. [/QUOTE]

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