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<blockquote data-quote="Kenny Coyote" data-source="post: 144209" data-attributes="member: 102">I believe that because Jim Davis died, Jock was remembered as a saint. The war hero story of saving the Jews comes to mind. Although I didn&#039;t see him as a saint, I saw him as an excellent man. I&#039;m curious, what where the things that made him &quot;villainous&quot; to you?JR did learn from his father but not the shitty stuff he did - not the compulsive cheating and emotional abuse of his wife. Also, remember JR told Jock that he offered Pam money to have her marriage annulled in the very first episode? If Jock had been as you described him, he would have approved! However, his reaction was &quot;You jackass&quot;!&nbsp; He told JR that he had to learn the art of subtlety. JR actually then asked &quot;Why&quot;?&nbsp; He really didn&#039;t know what the use of subtlety was! That&#039;s a tremendous testament to the difference between Jock and JR and how JR&#039;s worst deeds were precisely from the lack of learning everything Jock taught him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kenny Coyote, post: 144209, member: 102"] I believe that because Jim Davis died, Jock was remembered as a saint. The war hero story of saving the Jews comes to mind. Although I didn't see him as a saint, I saw him as an excellent man. I'm curious, what where the things that made him "villainous" to you? JR did learn from his father but not the shitty stuff he did - not the compulsive cheating and emotional abuse of his wife. Also, remember JR told Jock that he offered Pam money to have her marriage annulled in the very first episode? If Jock had been as you described him, he would have approved! However, his reaction was "You jackass"! He told JR that he had to learn the art of subtlety. JR actually then asked "Why"? He really didn't know what the use of subtlety was! That's a tremendous testament to the difference between Jock and JR and how JR's worst deeds were precisely from the lack of learning everything Jock taught him. [/QUOTE]

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