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<blockquote data-quote="Barbara Fan" data-source="post: 144451" data-attributes="member: 21">Jock, a great man-&nbsp; let me think...…………….Committed 1st wife to sanitorium - TICKLied to second wife and not told about 1st wife - TickUnfaithful and had a mistress in the war - TICKfathered a child out of wedlock - TICKUsed 3bs to blackmail, bribe, collude and trap any rival&nbsp; - TICKDrove no 2 son away as he was seen as weak- TICKCaused Jonus Culver to commit suicide as he got him committed to sanitorium to steal land - TICKRode roughshod over Tom Owens - TICKPitted sons against each other - TICKmale chauvinist - a womans place is in the bedroom not the board room - TICKYour&#039;re over stepping your place Miss Ellie - WTF!!&nbsp; - TICKand then there was Digger who Jock wasn&#039;t all to blame for his issues in life but certainly helped.that&#039;s not a great man in my book - a chauvinist, a bully and used to getting his own way and would fight anyone who stood in his way by buying off, setting up, corrupting and deceiving.&nbsp; I was never really sure why Miss Ellie married him - yes to save the ranch - and stuck with him.&nbsp; Id take Clayton any day of the week.JR was his fathers son without a doubt and learnt at the feet of the master!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Barbara Fan, post: 144451, member: 21"] Jock, a great man- let me think...……………. Committed 1st wife to sanitorium - TICK Lied to second wife and not told about 1st wife - Tick Unfaithful and had a mistress in the war - TICK fathered a child out of wedlock - TICK Used 3bs to blackmail, bribe, collude and trap any rival - TICK Drove no 2 son away as he was seen as weak- TICK Caused Jonus Culver to commit suicide as he got him committed to sanitorium to steal land - TICK Rode roughshod over Tom Owens - TICK Pitted sons against each other - TICK male chauvinist - a womans place is in the bedroom not the board room - TICK Your're over stepping your place Miss Ellie - WTF!! - TICK and then there was Digger who Jock wasn't all to blame for his issues in life but certainly helped. that's not a great man in my book - a chauvinist, a bully and used to getting his own way and would fight anyone who stood in his way by buying off, setting up, corrupting and deceiving. I was never really sure why Miss Ellie married him - yes to save the ranch - and stuck with him. Id take Clayton any day of the week. JR was his fathers son without a doubt and learnt at the feet of the master! [/QUOTE]

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