Forums
New posts
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Awards
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
A little forum update...We're planning an upgrade.
Find out more about what's planned and how you can help support the forum
Click here for the details
Forums
Dallas the TV series
Dallas - The Original Series
Lack of interaction between Miss Ellie and James
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Brian Kinney" data-source="post: 254964" data-attributes="member: 3219"><p>I would have accepted it as "was" true love long before he met Sue-Ellen. I don't think it's necessary to mention all former partners and so I accept grown-up children turning up in soaps. But it was much easier to believe it with Jenna and Bobby because they shared a background. I had much difficulty to believe that J.R. of all people would fall in love with a British woman or vice versa why should a cultivated Vanessa fall for a young J.R. - the young man with the black stetson (standing beneath a younger Miss Ellie) and no manners in <em>Dallas - The Early Years</em>?</p><p></p><p><img src="https://s12.directupload.net/images/210131/ijxdhho6.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I always liked James though. Maybe the German dubbing helped his performance (voice!)?</p><p></p><p>However I think neither Vanessa, her son or even Michelle were responsible for what I disliked about <em>Dallas</em> latter seasons. For me the decline started with Bobby's return, the dream explanation and that Katzman obviously cared more about Hagman's wishes than consistency. Good writers could have done exciting stories after Bobby's death. The dream season was better than everything that followed. Pam's exit couldn't be undone because the actress wanted to go - so that wasn't their decision.</p><p></p><p>But there could have been rivalling stories for Sue-Ellen and Vanessa to manifest their son's positions into the Ewing's/Southfork's legacy. Instead of Sue-Ellen vs. the tramps (Holly, Marilee, Mandy, Kimberly). They should've continued James and Cally instead of introducing James' little family. Having a young couple that lives off J.R.'s money under his nose while sitting with him in the living-room - fun (and they almost did it)! Keeping Donna AND Jenna in triangle situations with Ray and Bobby (Jack, if Bobby hadn't returned). They had a lot of options to write a better show. The could have watched <em>L.A. Law</em> or <em>St. Elsewhere</em> for inspirations and get their writers instead of those who failed at other Lorimar's shows or Spelling's. In the end Sue-Ellen and Cliff Barnes should have owned Ewing Oil! They got Linda Gray for the finale and they weren't able to realize that it was over and that they had to find a real surprise twist. J.R. still could have the last laugh.</p><p></p><p>Miss Ellie and Clayton were more important to <em>Dallas </em>DNA than Katzman seemed to understand. No one lets an actress who is the critic's darling of the show go without a fight or more money to keep her. That was insane. Lucy was always good in delivering snarky comments about J.R. - that was missing when she was absent and they forget about it when she briefly returned. Even though I liked the Beaumonts except for Carter McKay (and to a lesser degree Cally) the latter seasons had no character that fit into <em>Dallas</em> and they trashed Carter with his horrible and useless family. The absolute low points for me were LeeAnn DeLa Vega with her stupid story and April's murder. After that I knew I will never have a rewatch of Dallas. I watched the TNT show and liked S1-2 more than most of anything that happened after Bobby's shower reappearance. At least J.R. in his fragile state was more J.R. than in Seasons 13-14 and I saw a huge potential with John-Ross and Pamela-Rebecca. But then it turned into CSI: Mexico and I understood it's better cancelled and never seen again. So sad. While <em>Knots Landing</em> never failed to entertain me, <em>Dynasty</em> delivered a decent final season and <em>Falcon Crest</em> at least tried something new in the end. But <em>Dallas</em> a TV milestone turned into crap that now could only be rebooted with a new start from the scratch. If ever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brian Kinney, post: 254964, member: 3219"] I would have accepted it as "was" true love long before he met Sue-Ellen. I don't think it's necessary to mention all former partners and so I accept grown-up children turning up in soaps. But it was much easier to believe it with Jenna and Bobby because they shared a background. I had much difficulty to believe that J.R. of all people would fall in love with a British woman or vice versa why should a cultivated Vanessa fall for a young J.R. - the young man with the black stetson (standing beneath a younger Miss Ellie) and no manners in [I]Dallas - The Early Years[/I]? [IMG]https://s12.directupload.net/images/210131/ijxdhho6.jpg[/IMG] I always liked James though. Maybe the German dubbing helped his performance (voice!)? However I think neither Vanessa, her son or even Michelle were responsible for what I disliked about [I]Dallas[/I] latter seasons. For me the decline started with Bobby's return, the dream explanation and that Katzman obviously cared more about Hagman's wishes than consistency. Good writers could have done exciting stories after Bobby's death. The dream season was better than everything that followed. Pam's exit couldn't be undone because the actress wanted to go - so that wasn't their decision. But there could have been rivalling stories for Sue-Ellen and Vanessa to manifest their son's positions into the Ewing's/Southfork's legacy. Instead of Sue-Ellen vs. the tramps (Holly, Marilee, Mandy, Kimberly). They should've continued James and Cally instead of introducing James' little family. Having a young couple that lives off J.R.'s money under his nose while sitting with him in the living-room - fun (and they almost did it)! Keeping Donna AND Jenna in triangle situations with Ray and Bobby (Jack, if Bobby hadn't returned). They had a lot of options to write a better show. The could have watched [I]L.A. Law[/I] or [I]St. Elsewhere[/I] for inspirations and get their writers instead of those who failed at other Lorimar's shows or Spelling's. In the end Sue-Ellen and Cliff Barnes should have owned Ewing Oil! They got Linda Gray for the finale and they weren't able to realize that it was over and that they had to find a real surprise twist. J.R. still could have the last laugh. Miss Ellie and Clayton were more important to [I]Dallas [/I]DNA than Katzman seemed to understand. No one lets an actress who is the critic's darling of the show go without a fight or more money to keep her. That was insane. Lucy was always good in delivering snarky comments about J.R. - that was missing when she was absent and they forget about it when she briefly returned. Even though I liked the Beaumonts except for Carter McKay (and to a lesser degree Cally) the latter seasons had no character that fit into [I]Dallas[/I] and they trashed Carter with his horrible and useless family. The absolute low points for me were LeeAnn DeLa Vega with her stupid story and April's murder. After that I knew I will never have a rewatch of Dallas. I watched the TNT show and liked S1-2 more than most of anything that happened after Bobby's shower reappearance. At least J.R. in his fragile state was more J.R. than in Seasons 13-14 and I saw a huge potential with John-Ross and Pamela-Rebecca. But then it turned into CSI: Mexico and I understood it's better cancelled and never seen again. So sad. While [I]Knots Landing[/I] never failed to entertain me, [I]Dynasty[/I] delivered a decent final season and [I]Falcon Crest[/I] at least tried something new in the end. But [I]Dallas[/I] a TV milestone turned into crap that now could only be rebooted with a new start from the scratch. If ever. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Who played Sue Ellen in Dallas?
Post reply
Forums
Dallas the TV series
Dallas - The Original Series
Lack of interaction between Miss Ellie and James
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top