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<blockquote data-quote="Toni" data-source="post: 78783" data-attributes="member: 82">I honestly (should I use this word to talk about Mandy?) think that the Mandy who dated Cliff and befriended Pam was more interesting that the Mandy &quot;love goddess&quot; that JR went after. In a way, Katzman ruined his own storyline by depraving Mandy of all trace of personality and self-respect, especially in the Dream Season. That last attempt to make her a &quot;lib woman&quot; in her last season sort of blasted in Katzman´s face (poor Deborah appeared in many more scenes in lingerie than in casual clothes) and turned the show into a sexist parade of scenes in the very lame Valentine storyline. She didn´t obviously had the same clause in her contract than Victoria´s...<img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROnak3IsD5ASzHrFy1Ki0sanxFlIgBDY_tAxeDZCyYe3aVfCNyFg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />

Debbie never was more (and worse) dressed than here!!Was the character redeemable? I think so, as a vengeful ex-mistress (what soap doesn´t feature that?). She might have secretly married Jeremy Wendell or Wilson Cryder, and pull off the whole Sue Ellen revenge plot and try to ruin her too as well. Or even try to seduce Nicholas Pearce to steal him away (Afton´s echoes here...) from Sue Ellen. With Mandy as a nemesis for Sue Ellen, we might have been spared of the likes of the Stevens sisters, Stephanie Rogers, et al. &quot;Dallas&quot; was about family, and also about familiar faces. That is what people expected from the show in the 80´s, and didn´t get in the latter seasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Toni, post: 78783, member: 82"] I honestly (should I use this word to talk about Mandy?) think that the Mandy who dated Cliff and befriended Pam was more interesting that the Mandy "love goddess" that JR went after. In a way, Katzman ruined his own storyline by depraving Mandy of all trace of personality and self-respect, especially in the Dream Season. That last attempt to make her a "lib woman" in her last season sort of blasted in Katzman´s face (poor Deborah appeared in many more scenes in lingerie than in casual clothes) and turned the show into a sexist parade of scenes in the very lame Valentine storyline. She didn´t obviously had the same clause in her contract than Victoria´s... [CENTER][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROnak3IsD5ASzHrFy1Ki0sanxFlIgBDY_tAxeDZCyYe3aVfCNyFg[/IMG] Debbie never was more (and worse) dressed than here!![/CENTER] Was the character redeemable? I think so, as a vengeful ex-mistress (what soap doesn´t feature that?). She might have secretly married Jeremy Wendell or Wilson Cryder, and pull off the whole Sue Ellen revenge plot and try to ruin her too as well. Or even try to seduce Nicholas Pearce to steal him away (Afton´s echoes here...) from Sue Ellen. With Mandy as a nemesis for Sue Ellen, we might have been spared of the likes of the Stevens sisters, Stephanie Rogers, et al. "Dallas" was about family, and also about familiar faces. That is what people expected from the show in the 80´s, and didn´t get in the latter seasons. [/QUOTE]

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Who played JR Ewing?