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<blockquote data-quote="Angela Channing" data-source="post: 444022" data-attributes="member: 33">Where did I defend her? I was just pointing out that she wouldn&#039;t even be charged with murder if she carried out her crime in the UK.I don&#039;t have a strong view on her case because I don&#039;t know the full details (this case has had very little coverage in the UK) which is why I defer to those who have all the available facts,, i.e. the jury.Why are you bringing race into this? Another completely irrelevant point. Your faux anger doesn&#039;t cover the fact that you are not as familiar with the details of the case as the jurors.Again I don&#039;t know the facts of this particular case, so I will only comment on infanticide cases in general.I&#039;m sorry you had postpartum depression but I hope you got the support you needed from those around you to get through it.I don&#039;t know how the severity of Ms Clancy&#039;s postpartum depression compares with yours, and what support she received to help her deal with it, which is why I think it isn&#039;t always helpful to compare cases. But in general, if someone has a metal health condition that affects their ability to act or think rationally, then I think it is right that a court should take that into consideration when determining someone&#039;s guilt or not. It applies to men just as much as women. A man in a similar situation (i.e. killed someone while suffering from a mental health condition that caused diminished responsibilities), would not be convicted of murder. He wouldn&#039;t go unpunished though, in the same way a woman convicted of infanticide wouldn&#039;t go unpunished. They would be incarcerated under a medical supervision order for a period of time during which they would be treated. Depending on their sentence and how they respond to treatment, they could even be locked up for longer that if they had they been convicted of murder. I don&#039;t think that is a bad system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Angela Channing, post: 444022, member: 33"] Where did I defend her? I was just pointing out that she wouldn't even be charged with murder if she carried out her crime in the UK. I don't have a strong view on her case because I don't know the full details (this case has had very little coverage in the UK) which is why I defer to those who have all the available facts,, i.e. the jury. Why are you bringing race into this? Another completely irrelevant point. Your faux anger doesn't cover the fact that you are not as familiar with the details of the case as the jurors. Again I don't know the facts of this particular case, so I will only comment on infanticide cases in general. I'm sorry you had postpartum depression but I hope you got the support you needed from those around you to get through it. I don't know how the severity of Ms Clancy's postpartum depression compares with yours, and what support she received to help her deal with it, which is why I think it isn't always helpful to compare cases. But in general, if someone has a metal health condition that affects their ability to act or think rationally, then I think it is right that a court should take that into consideration when determining someone's guilt or not. It applies to men just as much as women. A man in a similar situation (i.e. killed someone while suffering from a mental health condition that caused diminished responsibilities), would not be convicted of murder. He wouldn't go unpunished though, in the same way a woman convicted of infanticide wouldn't go unpunished. They would be incarcerated under a medical supervision order for a period of time during which they would be treated. Depending on their sentence and how they respond to treatment, they could even be locked up for longer that if they had they been convicted of murder. I don't think that is a bad system. [/QUOTE]

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