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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Werewillie Oleson" data-source="post: 321567" data-attributes="member: 8">One thing that Old Rich doesn't do is talking about money (except for the annual shareholders meeting) so I guess that disqualifies all of them.More literally, Old Rich suggests generations of status and wealth while Nouveau Riche is the "overnight" success e.g. filthy rich football players or someone who's invented something very successful in his garage or bedroom.I guess the 80s soap dynasties was something between Old and Nouveau (with The Colbys as the oldest and most dignified family) and then it also depends on the individual characters - and that didn't always make sense.I think of Miss Ellie as Dallas Aristocracy (too good for a man like Jock Ewing who saved the Southworths with his dirty new money). All she had to do was dress up a little bit, smile and make a polite request and it was "considered done".Gary Ewing was Old Money enough to walk away from it, and eccentric enough to want to spend his inheritance on saving Californian trees (thank God Abby was having none of it).JR was trash, he practically lived in his office and banged hookers in cheap condos.Then there's Sue Ellen who oozes decorum despite being a former Miss Texas - she would refer to Pam's fashion fundraising concept as "novel" - but her  status was oddly counterbalanced when the Daughters of the Alamo sniggered at her tacky little fur. Although that fashion alarm could also  suggest that the sniggering Daughters were too  interested in the do's and don'ts which creates a sense of wannabe-elite.Season 1's Carrington Kingdom (physical punishment for disloyal servants, the Dobermanns) felt like like a mix of Tudors and Sopranos.The most stereotypical Old Money characters were in Knots Landing: Greg and Ruth Sumner-Galveston becauses they seemed completely untouchable.Ruth the photographer was like the Queen's bohemian sister and Greg was simply always better than everyone else. In fact so good he didn't even have to act smug about it.The New York Giobertis were Nouveau Riche but they never acted like it, the Tuscany Channings were closer to Old Money but too wacky dysfunctional to consider them a prestigious dynasty. Furtermore, Angela Channing wasn't respected by the Tuscany community, she was feared.Just like the horrible 80s pastel explosion cheapened the look of our beloved prime time soaps.Alexis' penthouse was actually a very lovely set, at least it looked huge, but they made it look like an upgraded Acapulco hotel room (so much for "palazzo").These are simply designer mistakes because they made things look too contemporary and cookie-cutter.By contrast, Zach Powers' penthouse looked wonderfully 1960s which enhanced Zach and Sable's scenes, and the ice-green colour of the Carrington corridors is superb. But then there's Krystle's bedroom in season 2 that looks like a nightmare of vomit.I think it's a strange potpourri of Old and New, Class and Trash, but overall it worked. When the story gets more and more confined to their soap bubble shenanigans it doesn't matter anymore how they're being perceived by the outside world. Or maybe it still matters but it becomes more difficult to show it in a convincing way.</blockquote>

Verification: Who played Sue Ellen in Dallas?