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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 370743" data-attributes="member: 57984"><p><h4><span style="font-size: 15px">At one point</span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">, @[USER=95]ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989[/USER] </span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px">posted this:</span></h4><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">I kinda remember most of what I wrote in the original posting on the old forum, so please bear with me, this was my favourite post and a number of people liked it too, so I thought I'd revive for Snarky, so I am going to write it again and add some more thoughts, forgive me it's not in its entirety, I may save posts into notes in future.</span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>As I remember saying Dynasty, like the 80s overall, had an obsession with the 1950s-60s era.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>Even though that those two decades are so completely different from each other they may as well be in different planets, after all the year 1951 has nothing in common with the year 1968 so I'm going to narrow this down to the years 1955-1964, the '70s on the other hand were completely ignored during that period in time (the years 1970-74 was sort of nostalgic in the mid to late 80s probably due to the fact that it was still "the sixties" albeit an extended bit) and similarily Dynasty also ignored the 70s, Dynasty never once explained anything that might've happened from the time Alexis was banished from Denver in 1964 to when Krystle arrived in 1978, just two and a bit years before she married Blake.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>We know that Kirby left Denver for France in the mid 70s, it seems that she was gone away for some years before her return in 1982, but aside from this nothing.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>Blake can't have been a lonely bachelor for 14 years and grieving the loss of his marriage to Alexis, early Blake was brusque in his manner and he rose above things.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>Interestingly in season 9 Fallon mentions to Krystle that she alone brought them more closer as a family than they ever could have, this statement means to me that Blake hardly ever saw his children when they were teenagers.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>So what could Blake have been doing all those years before Krystle?</em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>Someone mentioned on the old forum that Blake and Alexis marriage matched an idealised time in America's history as they were married roughly around the Americana years, again I place this era to be mid 1950s to Kennedy's assassination/aftermath in 1963-64 when after that the sixties really "began".</em></span></p><p></p><p><em>-----------------------------------</em></p><p></p><p>Yes, had there ever been a prequel movie or series (which was never going to happen; we got CW's nuDYNASTY instead which never got out of the basement yet mysteriously ran five years anyway) this would have been the territory to cover: Blake's post-war wildcatting activities, the '50s engagement and "ideal" marriage of Blake & Alexis, the final meltdown of their connubial bond in the middle of the '60s, the "lost" and disillusioned phase of the '70s when Alexis is beachcombing and Blake and his two young children, Fallon and Steven, are the tiny family unit wandering that big, shadowed house with the pointlessly small windows, the kids off-to-school for three or four years before returning in 1980 for Blake's marriage to his new bride, Krystle Grant Jennings.</p><p></p><p>Does it really matter which year Blake & Alexis split up?</p><p></p><p>I suppose it doesn't, really. But the cultural schism, the jagged black line that bifurcated the decade of the 1960s, seems the appropriate parallel for Alexis' banishment from Blake's kingdom forever.</p><p></p><p>Season 1 said the break-up happened in 1965 ("sixteen years ago").</p><p></p><p>Season 5 said the break-up happened in 1963 (for several months!), Alexis thrown out for good in October 1963.</p><p></p><p>Season 9 said the break-up happened in 1964 (I'd be satisfied with being told that the divorce was finalized in January 1965) the separation probably occurring June '64 just after Steven's birthday.</p><p></p><p>Again, does it matter?? A little continuity is always nice with these things, and sometimes contradictions have to be dealt with or rationalized (or ignored).</p><p></p><p>When people discuss the 1960s (which has gone on since the 1960s) there is often a debate about which year "changed," where the metaphoric line was passed and we went from past-to-future.</p><p></p><p>Some even cite 1962, because it was the year of the Cuban Missile Crisis (in late-October) and Hitler may have died in February '62!! -- that is, if you believe in stuff like that. But 1962 seems a little early to me; it's really not yet at the cusp.</p><p></p><p>Some people cite 1963 because, among other things, JFK was assassinated in November. And as cataclysmic as it was, as eerie as the event was (the metaphoric pin in the balloon of Cold War tension which had been building ever since the advent of The Bomb at the end of WW2 nearly twenty years earlier), 1963 is still squarely in that haunted cemetery that was the early-'60s.</p><p></p><p>Some people leap ahead all the way to 1968, the most volatile year domestically of the decade. But that's too late -- the post-apocalyptic vibe of the late-'60s had already been in place for a couple of years, even if '68 seemed like the climax.</p><p></p><p>Some people cite 1964 as the psychic cusp of the decade, as a shadowed year which has -- almost supernaturally -- a foot squarely in both halves... And while I'm probably in that camp, to a point, nevertheless, the year that started out still <strong>feeling</strong> like the early-'60s yet finished up our knowing unequivocally that the new era had arrived.... is 1965.</p><p></p><p>Should Blake & Alexis break-up follow this pattern? (Whatever the pattern is). I'd say: "Yes, it's nice."</p><p></p><p>So let's say:</p><p></p><p>Blake caught Alexis in bed with Roger Grimes in early June of 1964, beats Roger with that candlestick and puts him in the hospital for a month; a weekend reconciliation attempt failed before the end of July 1964 (after which, Alexis goes to a recovered Roger who rejects her and beats her into unconsciousness on the floor of the cottage; resultingly, Fallon shoots him to death; Grandpa cleans up everything). The divorce is finalized in January 1965, and Amanda is born in London in April 1965 (nineteen years before Blake even knew she existed).</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/carringtondynasty/images/4/4b/Caresscredit.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171011195725" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 799px" /></p><p></p><p>I also want Caress involved in this: she tells Blake where to catch het sister and Roger in the sack. 6 weeks later, blood dripping from the back of his head, a vengeful Roger stumbles down from the cottage to the mansion kitchen at night, and rapes his former paramour on the floor, followed by her stabbing Roger to death, finishing the job little Fallon failed to complete. Again, Tom Carrington cleans up the mess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 370743, member: 57984"] [HEADING=3][SIZE=4]At one point[/SIZE][B][SIZE=4], @[USER=95]ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989[/USER] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4]posted this:[/SIZE][/HEADING] [I][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]I kinda remember most of what I wrote in the original posting on the old forum, so please bear with me, this was my favourite post and a number of people liked it too, so I thought I'd revive for Snarky, so I am going to write it again and add some more thoughts, forgive me it's not in its entirety, I may save posts into notes in future.[/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][I]As I remember saying Dynasty, like the 80s overall, had an obsession with the 1950s-60s era. Even though that those two decades are so completely different from each other they may as well be in different planets, after all the year 1951 has nothing in common with the year 1968 so I'm going to narrow this down to the years 1955-1964, the '70s on the other hand were completely ignored during that period in time (the years 1970-74 was sort of nostalgic in the mid to late 80s probably due to the fact that it was still "the sixties" albeit an extended bit) and similarily Dynasty also ignored the 70s, Dynasty never once explained anything that might've happened from the time Alexis was banished from Denver in 1964 to when Krystle arrived in 1978, just two and a bit years before she married Blake. We know that Kirby left Denver for France in the mid 70s, it seems that she was gone away for some years before her return in 1982, but aside from this nothing. Blake can't have been a lonely bachelor for 14 years and grieving the loss of his marriage to Alexis, early Blake was brusque in his manner and he rose above things. Interestingly in season 9 Fallon mentions to Krystle that she alone brought them more closer as a family than they ever could have, this statement means to me that Blake hardly ever saw his children when they were teenagers. So what could Blake have been doing all those years before Krystle? Someone mentioned on the old forum that Blake and Alexis marriage matched an idealised time in America's history as they were married roughly around the Americana years, again I place this era to be mid 1950s to Kennedy's assassination/aftermath in 1963-64 when after that the sixties really "began".[/I][/COLOR] [I]-----------------------------------[/I] Yes, had there ever been a prequel movie or series (which was never going to happen; we got CW's nuDYNASTY instead which never got out of the basement yet mysteriously ran five years anyway) this would have been the territory to cover: Blake's post-war wildcatting activities, the '50s engagement and "ideal" marriage of Blake & Alexis, the final meltdown of their connubial bond in the middle of the '60s, the "lost" and disillusioned phase of the '70s when Alexis is beachcombing and Blake and his two young children, Fallon and Steven, are the tiny family unit wandering that big, shadowed house with the pointlessly small windows, the kids off-to-school for three or four years before returning in 1980 for Blake's marriage to his new bride, Krystle Grant Jennings. Does it really matter which year Blake & Alexis split up? I suppose it doesn't, really. But the cultural schism, the jagged black line that bifurcated the decade of the 1960s, seems the appropriate parallel for Alexis' banishment from Blake's kingdom forever. Season 1 said the break-up happened in 1965 ("sixteen years ago"). Season 5 said the break-up happened in 1963 (for several months!), Alexis thrown out for good in October 1963. Season 9 said the break-up happened in 1964 (I'd be satisfied with being told that the divorce was finalized in January 1965) the separation probably occurring June '64 just after Steven's birthday. Again, does it matter?? A little continuity is always nice with these things, and sometimes contradictions have to be dealt with or rationalized (or ignored). When people discuss the 1960s (which has gone on since the 1960s) there is often a debate about which year "changed," where the metaphoric line was passed and we went from past-to-future. Some even cite 1962, because it was the year of the Cuban Missile Crisis (in late-October) and Hitler may have died in February '62!! -- that is, if you believe in stuff like that. But 1962 seems a little early to me; it's really not yet at the cusp. Some people cite 1963 because, among other things, JFK was assassinated in November. And as cataclysmic as it was, as eerie as the event was (the metaphoric pin in the balloon of Cold War tension which had been building ever since the advent of The Bomb at the end of WW2 nearly twenty years earlier), 1963 is still squarely in that haunted cemetery that was the early-'60s. Some people leap ahead all the way to 1968, the most volatile year domestically of the decade. But that's too late -- the post-apocalyptic vibe of the late-'60s had already been in place for a couple of years, even if '68 seemed like the climax. Some people cite 1964 as the psychic cusp of the decade, as a shadowed year which has -- almost supernaturally -- a foot squarely in both halves... And while I'm probably in that camp, to a point, nevertheless, the year that started out still [B]feeling[/B] like the early-'60s yet finished up our knowing unequivocally that the new era had arrived.... is 1965. Should Blake & Alexis break-up follow this pattern? (Whatever the pattern is). I'd say: "Yes, it's nice." So let's say: Blake caught Alexis in bed with Roger Grimes in early June of 1964, beats Roger with that candlestick and puts him in the hospital for a month; a weekend reconciliation attempt failed before the end of July 1964 (after which, Alexis goes to a recovered Roger who rejects her and beats her into unconsciousness on the floor of the cottage; resultingly, Fallon shoots him to death; Grandpa cleans up everything). The divorce is finalized in January 1965, and Amanda is born in London in April 1965 (nineteen years before Blake even knew she existed). [IMG width="799px"]https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/carringtondynasty/images/4/4b/Caresscredit.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171011195725[/IMG] I also want Caress involved in this: she tells Blake where to catch het sister and Roger in the sack. 6 weeks later, blood dripping from the back of his head, a vengeful Roger stumbles down from the cottage to the mansion kitchen at night, and rapes his former paramour on the floor, followed by her stabbing Roger to death, finishing the job little Fallon failed to complete. Again, Tom Carrington cleans up the mess. [/QUOTE]
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