Steve Kanaly and Susan Howard

[James from London]

Kimberley Cryder (what a terrible character)

Oh Kimberly was a blast! And her wheelchair father, Dr Styles, was great too. "Texas belles and their ever-lovin' daddies."

As I say, I loved both Donna's and Ewing Oil's stories in 86/87 and wouldn't wanted to compromise either to "save" the following season -- even if it needed saving, which I don't think it did. True, the 87/88 season took a while to kick into gear (as a lot of DALLAS seasons did), but the second half, where JR has somehow gotten everyone involved his campaign to take over West Star, is great fun.

 

[Grangehill1]

To quote a line from Groucho Marx, you may "think me a sentimental old fluff", but I did like the way everyone ended up in happy couples in the dream season. But drama does require conflict; perhaps that's all Steve was trying to say.

Would have been the perfect way to end the show. And the last shot of Bobby in the shower. All these years later we still wouldn’t have known what happened

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Would have been the perfect way to end the show. And the last shot of Bobby in the shower. All these years later we still wouldn’t have known what happened

I'd've hated to have missed Season 10 (per DVD count) though, so I'm willing to have DALLAS end with Pam's crash, Sue Ellen's shooting of JR in 1988, or Sue Ellen's leaving a year later.

Barring those, I'd like JR's self-inflicted 1991 head shot, as he lay on his bedroom carpet, blur into Pam waking up, going to the shower, and finding Mark Graison dead on the floor as the camera moves in on the water going down the drain, Pam screaming, "Maaaaaaaaaaaark!", and fade to black.

We're now never sure which sections of DALLAS were a dream and which were not.

 

[DallasFanForever]

Would have been the perfect way to end the show. And the last shot of Bobby in the shower. All these years later we still wouldn’t have known what happened

I like this idea because it would’ve been the biggest what if in television history. We all would’ve been left guessing til this day.

 

[pete lashmar]

I like this idea because it would’ve been the biggest what if in television history. We all would’ve been left guessing til this day.

well...until JR Returns

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I'd've hated to have missed Season 10 (per DVD count) though, so I'm willing to have DALLAS end with Pam's crash, Sue Ellen's shooting of JR in 1988, or Sue Ellen's leaving a year later.

Barring those, I'd like JR's self-inflicted 1991 head shot, as he lay on his bedroom carpet, blur into Pam waking up, going to the shower, and finding Mark Graison dead on the floor as the camera moves in on the water going down the drain, Pam screaming, "Maaaaaaaaaaaark!", and fade to black.

We're now never sure which sections of DALLAS were a dream and which were not.

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But that's not the final scene! After the fade to black we get a shot of Miss Ellie sitting up in bed. She leans over and gently shakes the person beside her.

"Wake up, it's the funeral today!" Ellie says.

The camera show's Steve Forrest sitting up in bed! "I love you Ellie."

"I love you too Jock!"

Freeze Frame, end of the series.

 

[the-lost-son]

Ray & Donna were great, it brought some leverage to the ups&downs of JR&SE, Bobvy&Pam.

Except for Wes Parmalee I'm not a huge fan of season 10 (DVD). First the BD Calhoun storyline, which was dragged out endlesslyyyyyy.
Second is the uncharacteristic break-up of Donna&Ray. It did not make any sense to me. From the very first minutes of the season, it has been established that they had big problems (not new ones, just some of the old ones) which couldn't be resolved now somehow.
The rest of season Donna is phoning in from Washington, Ray runs after Jenna for no apparent reason either.
In a series which was so big on family and heirs, it's mind boggling how out of character everybody behaved:
Pam wanted to buy Jenna's baby
Ray is having a fist fight with Bobby about what exactly?
Then Bobby gives Lucas to Ray with a handshake.
Ray gets a few pictures of Margret, never to be seen again.
It's out of character.

With Pam gone, Ray&Donna should have been the couple fans were waiting/hoping for a reunion (divided by circumstances).

Maybe Jenna pregnant again and Ray staying with her because of honor and so on.

But Donna was a great loss, emphasized by Pam's departure too, it was too much. There was so much potential there (politics, land development etc.)

I don't get it why Donna never returned (Conundrum) or to TNT Dallas (as governor or senator).

 

[Mustard]

I was watching what looked to be a recent clip of an interview with Patrick, Linda, Charlene and Steve. In one segment Steve said he preferred it when Ray was single, it was better for the character and the suggestion was better for him as an actor. He mentioned that he and Susan argued as characters and in real life. I had no idea and assumed it was happy families. He did go on and make some compliments about her, but given that we don't see so much of her in connection with Dallas, I wondered whether the cast got on with her. Anyone have any tales they can share perhaps?

Anyone falling out with Susan Howard has probably talked politics with her. She's a conservative Republican of the sort that's controlled the GOP from the 1980s onwards (until Trump). I don't know if she's anti or pro Trump.

 

[Pamela_E]

Oh Kimberly was a blast! And her wheelchair father, Dr Styles, was great too. "Texas belles and their ever-lovin' daddies."

As I say, I loved both Donna's and Ewing Oil's stories in 86/87 and wouldn't wanted to compromise either to "save" the following season -- even if it needed saving, which I don't think it did. True, the 87/88 season took a while to kick into gear (as a lot of DALLAS seasons did), but the second half, where JR has somehow gotten everyone involved his campaign to take over West Star, is great fun.

Kimberly was brilliant, I always thought she should have married JR. I loved the idea of her swanning around Southfork.

Anyone falling out with Susan Howard has probably talked politics with her. She's a conservative Republican of the sort that's controlled the GOP from the 1980s onwards (until Trump). I don't know if she's anti or pro Trump.

I think, like any work place, there were pockets of people. Susan for example is one of the few who speak highly of Victoria Principal. I love the story she tells how Victoria got her husband to help with surgery on a child of Susan's friend.

I really liked Donna, loved her relationship with Miss Ellie.

Susan was also a advocate for Phil Capice which probably didn't go down well.

The only issue I had with Donna's exit was how it came at the same time as Pam's. To lose two of the leading ladies wasn't great.

But her exit made sense to me, there was an actual build up and story to it, unlike Pam who just exploded.

They were also cutting costs at the time. So she was one character that was dispensable.