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The Quality Of Acting Throughout Dallas

Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
A lot has been written recently of the decline in quality of Dallas starting around season 9 DVD count and then dramatically worsening when James and Michelle were given so much screen time that they were basically being forced down the viewers' throats.

Some reasons that have ben suggested as being most likely to blame for the decline in quality of the series are the writing, the loss of characters important to the ensemble, casting - hiring inferior actors in laters years (especially Michelle and James!), and the character of JR losing his power and falling from a highly competent and feared businessman, to somewhat of a buffoon!

The aspect I'd like to focus on is the quality the acting performances given by those of the original Dallas ensemble and those who were added to the ensemble fairly early - up to and including Howard Keel.

I'm interested in knowing how many people here, if any, blame a decline in the quality of acting from those particular actors as part of the reason for the overall decline in the quality of Dallas.

As mentioned above, JR has been mentioned for turning into somewhat of a buffoon but I don't believe that's the fault of his acting. Even in the worst years of Dallas Larry Hagamn's acting remained top notch. It's hard to imagine that anyone else could have done better with some of the storylines he was given such as Haleyville or staying married to Sue Ellen far after there was any good reason for the two of them to still be married. I find it painful to watch a lot of the scenes between JR and Sue Ellen past approximately season 8 (DVD count). The bad storylines for JR continued - after FINALLY getting divorced from Sue Ellen, having his new wife being Cally was something I don't imagine any actor of his age could have made more convincing or interesting. especially considering the lines he and Cally were both given. Checking himself into a sanitarium and what ended up happening to him once in there was absolutely pathetic and embarrassing to the legacy of the character.

Cliff also seemed to turn even goofier and become more of a buffoon and a loser as time went on but I can't find fault with Ken Kercheval's acting performances in the waning days of Dallas either. He did as well as anyone could have with the material he was given.

Howard Keel and Barbara Bel Geddes never seemed to "phone in their performances" either in the declining days of Dallas. Their acting performances remained high quality but clearly the creative department had nothing of them so they were relegated to becoming amateur detectives - somewhat similar to Murder, She Wrote.

Linda Gray - I could go on listing more members of the original ensemble such as Ray and Donna, but the only person I found to have declined in the quality of her acting performances is Linda Gray. In seasons 11 and 12 I found it particularly painful to watch her acting. There was something very phony and contrived about many of her acting scenes and her acting diversity also took a major hit. She used to be capable of exhibiting a wide range of emotions and while never one of my favorites, she was competent in the glory days of Dallas. In seasons 11 and 12 though her diversity was all but gone and if all you knew that the next scene featured Sue Ellen, it would be a fairly safe bet that she would be grinning like a Jack-O-Lantern throughout the scene. She had an enormous fake smile whether she was happy, angry, or and sometimes even when she was sad. Linda Gray should have been let go in season 8 or 10 (DVD count). After all, how many times could you watch JR and Sue Ellen get together for a short time, only for something to inevitably cause her to move into one of he guest bedrooms and yet stay married to JR before it became old and repetitive to you?

So, in conclusion, with ne exception, I think that even in the waning days of Dallas, the original ensemble members showed they were true professionals and always made the most of whatever scripts the were given. Please feel free to share your own opinions on this subject as I'm interested in finding out how the rest of you feel about this subject.
 

ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989

Telly Talk TV Fanatic
Thats the frustrating part of the last three years for Larry Hagman, because he was such a good actor, that to see him get screwed over, in every episode from 1988 to 1991, and JR becoming buffoonish it was like JR was playing Larry Hagman playing JR in some corny HAMMER HOUSE OF HORROR movie from the 70s.

Linda Gray's strongest season was season 9 DVD and she had many strong moments before too, but like with JR in the later years it was largely to do with the bizarre writing we got from season 11 onwards.

Most of the original cast were very, very good actors, some even great, BBG and Victoria Principle stand out, I somehow cannot imagine James and Michelle circa 1991, acting out the scene between Donna and Ray when they found out their baby had downs syndrome in 1985, with the same emotion and raw power they gave the viewers.
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
So, in conclusion, with one exception, I think that even in the waning days of Dallas, the original ensemble members showed they were true professionals and always made the most of whatever scripts the were given.
Okay, are you saying that "one exception" is Linda Gray?? I might have misunderstood you, so that might have not been what you were saying. I don't know.

I was fine with Sue Ellen being written out when she was was. Season 8 would have been too early.

While James and Michelle and some of the later additions weren't as well conceived or cast, I subscribe to the general belief system that better writing makes for better acting.

When the writing slid in the closing years of DALLAS, so did the performances -- even from
the core cast. That's probably inevitable.
 

Swami

Telly Talk Supreme
I agree that JR being made into a whipping boy in the last few seasons was a major factor in the decline, no matter how good Larry Hagman's acting was, the character was simply not meant to be a pushover.

So undoubtedly some poor writing played a part in that, but equally bringing in some of those poor actors in the last two or three seasons contributed just as much.

Swami
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Star
I also blame it on the writing that the veterans couldn't shine anymore in the final seasons, but what surprised me was the acting of the established actresses who joined Dallas in the last few seasons. Gayle Hunnicutt, Lesley-Anne Down, Susan Lucci, Barbara Stock and Barbara Eden all disappointed - instead of bad acting there was often over-acting, which was odd.

The casting in the last few seasons didn't seem to have been as on point as it used to be. Lesley-Anne Down could have done well as Vanessa or Sheila, but she didn't succeed as Stephanie. The role of Stephanie might have suited Susan Lucci better.
 
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LMLDallas78

Telly Talk Enthusiast
Oh where to start.......
We can blame the writers, we can blame the actors, we can blame the characters that need to change to keep up with an ever changing world. It's probably a bit of all of these and more.

Some actors are better than others and can adapt easily to changing story lines and we all have our opinions on those. This original post was started some years ago now and takes a strong view regarding Linda Gray/Sue Ellen among others. After Sue Ellen left (which was always too early for me) I lost interest in all the new characters that followed, a lot to do with the people portraying them and the storylines. Sadly JR and Cliff had already become cartoonish, still wonder if either of the actors had anything to do with that.

But as I stated earlier characters have to evolve and I guess we don't always like it. Sue Ellen did change as a character and I believe that had a lot to do with LG wanting that change, but I think she continued to play it well and was far more than just "competent".
It's hard to imagine another character being so diverse and really challenging how they were at the beginning. It's like making someone sickly sweet into a nasty person, such a contrast is often hard to accept. If you're a fan of the actor maybe it's a little easier to accept and it's only down to our own personal judgement if they continue to be convincing and watchable in their role.
 
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