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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James from London" data-source="post: 216381" data-attributes="member: 22"><p>I feel pretty much the same way. I guess if I were to take pride in the good things done in the country I was born in, it would logically follow that I should derive shame from the bad things, otherwise I'd be denying the whole picture, so the two would probably end up balancing each other out. (But I accept that feelings and logic don't always go hand in hand.)</p></blockquote><p></p>