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<blockquote data-quote="Daniel Avery" data-source="post: 142941" data-attributes="member: 27"><p>With Tyler Perry taking it on himself to <em>do everything but the catering</em>, I can't help but think this type of compressed storytelling is a choice he made to "put his own stamp" on it. If there was a typical writing staff, they would likely feel compelled to pace things more like a nighttime soap, where things happen off-screen to help stories progress, and where time passes between episodes rather than always picking up right where the last episode ended. Writing by committee presents its own problems, but at least there is attention paid to proper pacing and they try not to burn through this much story so quickly. In most cases this highly compressed storytelling can work okay, but certain plot points can't be done "correctly"--such as Melissa's storyline where she ended up pregnant for three seasons and not even showing yet. Similarly, the plotline where Jim and David were running for Governor/Lt. Governor had to be ditched because they could not synchronize "their" election with the real-life election period. In the most recent season, they watched coverage on TV of a new President having been elected, though the presidential election for the rest of the country was two years ago. Note that they don't observe any sorts of holidays in their version of Savannah--no "Christmas episodes," no July 4th or Thanksgiving--they rarely even mention the <em>day of the week</em>. <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)">There's no time for characters to stop and enjoy a family event or go on a vacation. </span></span>It's kind of like that Vegas act where the guy spins plates on sticks, and has to run back and forth to keep all the plates spinning at the same time or they all come crashing down at once.</p><p></p><p>I don't think Perry would ever relinquish writing or producing duties to anyone else. He'd more likely end the show than let other people take the reins, even if they might clean up a lot of messes and put the show on track for a longer run. </p><p></p><p></p><p>...and I've mostly watched it one episode per week. This "from the beginning" thing they're doing (showing three or four episodes every Tuesday night) will be my first experience with multi-episode viewing. I think TP probably writes and structures the show toward the "weekly watchers". Repetition of scenes (or at least the dialogue in those scenes) is typically done for weekly viewers on soaps, in an effort to remind the viewer where they left the storyline. Having two characters play virtually the same scene for weeks or months with no plot progression is unfortunately often seen here (at least in mid-season), but if he thought more people were binge-watching, he would not need to repeat the points so much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds like you just saw the most recent season finale (or at least one of the final scenes of it). These two often talk in circles (same threats, same burns, same flared nostrils) but neither ever gets the upper hand for long. The guy getting kissed should run for the hills to get away from these craaaaa-zeeee people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daniel Avery, post: 142941, member: 27"] With Tyler Perry taking it on himself to [I]do everything but the catering[/I], I can't help but think this type of compressed storytelling is a choice he made to "put his own stamp" on it. If there was a typical writing staff, they would likely feel compelled to pace things more like a nighttime soap, where things happen off-screen to help stories progress, and where time passes between episodes rather than always picking up right where the last episode ended. Writing by committee presents its own problems, but at least there is attention paid to proper pacing and they try not to burn through this much story so quickly. In most cases this highly compressed storytelling can work okay, but certain plot points can't be done "correctly"--such as Melissa's storyline where she ended up pregnant for three seasons and not even showing yet. Similarly, the plotline where Jim and David were running for Governor/Lt. Governor had to be ditched because they could not synchronize "their" election with the real-life election period. In the most recent season, they watched coverage on TV of a new President having been elected, though the presidential election for the rest of the country was two years ago. Note that they don't observe any sorts of holidays in their version of Savannah--no "Christmas episodes," no July 4th or Thanksgiving--they rarely even mention the [I]day of the week[/I]. [FONT=Georgia][COLOR=rgb(20, 20, 20)]There's no time for characters to stop and enjoy a family event or go on a vacation. [/COLOR][/FONT]It's kind of like that Vegas act where the guy spins plates on sticks, and has to run back and forth to keep all the plates spinning at the same time or they all come crashing down at once. I don't think Perry would ever relinquish writing or producing duties to anyone else. He'd more likely end the show than let other people take the reins, even if they might clean up a lot of messes and put the show on track for a longer run. ...and I've mostly watched it one episode per week. This "from the beginning" thing they're doing (showing three or four episodes every Tuesday night) will be my first experience with multi-episode viewing. I think TP probably writes and structures the show toward the "weekly watchers". Repetition of scenes (or at least the dialogue in those scenes) is typically done for weekly viewers on soaps, in an effort to remind the viewer where they left the storyline. Having two characters play virtually the same scene for weeks or months with no plot progression is unfortunately often seen here (at least in mid-season), but if he thought more people were binge-watching, he would not need to repeat the points so much. Sounds like you just saw the most recent season finale (or at least one of the final scenes of it). These two often talk in circles (same threats, same burns, same flared nostrils) but neither ever gets the upper hand for long. The guy getting kissed should run for the hills to get away from these craaaaa-zeeee people. [/QUOTE]
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