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<blockquote data-quote="Brian Kinney" data-source="post: 250354" data-attributes="member: 3219">Tyler Perry&#039;s scenes between males are often very different to what we usually see in other shows. There is a lot of masculine toxity, violence but also a camaraderie going on between friends and work colleagues (e.g. accountants). What that means I don&#039;t know. It doesn&#039;t add value to the stories but at least Perry spares us any typical male TV stereotypes. There isn&#039;t a single male hero on HAHN. Some men are less tainted than others (Jeffrey and David) but still not above killing someone else if given the opportunity... And Hanna who can be often very self-righteous is so far the only female part that is a hero but not too stereotypical either. Her obsession with faith which unnerved me in the first two or three seasons has a relatable origin (she became religious after the rape). So despite all criticisms for HAHN I think Perry&#039;s writing for male/female interaction is original. Only problem as you mentioned: it&#039;s just talk.That&#039;s a possible connection I missed. But is Tanner influential enough to do that? But yes, why should a new character turn up and not be connected to anyone else? Maybe the show had so many escorts from the start on that I automatically think any new character is a sex worker and the desperate young woman knew Candace or her co-workers. BTW: Veronica&#039;s side toyboy who gave Justin a message and was Katheryn&#039;s &quot;personal trainer&quot; also gives the impression he is more than a trainer or am I over-analysing this <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; ?Evidence exhibit:<img src="https://s12.directupload.net/images/201231/hixli6c7.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Katheryn&#039;s trainer and Veronica&#039;s Oddjob Marco: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6029526/" target="_blank">Thomas Canestraro</a>(photo with dog Maddox <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /> by Mike Ruiz)Poetic justice! Would be even better if by some circumstances Celine gets a large chunk of the Cryer&#039;s money and buys Veronica&#039;s house to have her clean there!The Malones have the Iron Bone. So even in Covid times (even though not addressed) they still can meet there and don&#039;t break the law because they&#039;re actually one household... I assume they separated the sets and actors as they did to minimize the risk if someone gets infected. When that happens it doesn&#039;t affect many other stories. But maybe I&#039;m giving them too much credit for it and it&#039;s just another creative slump.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brian Kinney, post: 250354, member: 3219"] Tyler Perry's scenes between males are often very different to what we usually see in other shows. There is a lot of masculine toxity, violence but also a camaraderie going on between friends and work colleagues (e.g. accountants). What that means I don't know. It doesn't add value to the stories but at least Perry spares us any typical male TV stereotypes. There isn't a single male hero on HAHN. Some men are less tainted than others (Jeffrey and David) but still not above killing someone else if given the opportunity... And Hanna who can be often very self-righteous is so far the only female part that is a hero but not too stereotypical either. Her obsession with faith which unnerved me in the first two or three seasons has a relatable origin (she became religious after the rape). So despite all criticisms for HAHN I think Perry's writing for male/female interaction is original. Only problem as you mentioned: it's just talk. That's a possible connection I missed. But is Tanner influential enough to do that? But yes, why should a new character turn up and not be connected to anyone else? Maybe the show had so many escorts from the start on that I automatically think any new character is a sex worker and the desperate young woman knew Candace or her co-workers. BTW: Veronica's side toyboy who gave Justin a message and was Katheryn's "personal trainer" also gives the impression he is more than a trainer or am I over-analysing this :) ? Evidence exhibit: [IMG]https://s12.directupload.net/images/201231/hixli6c7.jpg[/IMG] Katheryn's trainer and Veronica's Oddjob Marco: [URL='https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6029526/'][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Thomas Canestraro[/COLOR][/URL] (photo with dog Maddox :cool: by Mike Ruiz) Poetic justice! Would be even better if by some circumstances Celine gets a large chunk of the Cryer's money and buys Veronica's house to have her clean there! The Malones have the Iron Bone. So even in Covid times (even though not addressed) they still can meet there and don't break the law because they're actually [I]one[/I] household... I assume they separated the sets and actors as they did to minimize the risk if someone gets infected. When that happens it doesn't affect many other stories. But maybe I'm giving them too much credit for it and it's just another creative slump. [/QUOTE]

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