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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustard" data-source="post: 312390" data-attributes="member: 46"><p>Ray was also flawed in a different way to Gary. Gary would beat himself up for his faults, but he rarely lacked self-esteem like Ray did. Gary would be confident, do something, mess up, attack himself for his mistakes, then move on with a certain confidence still. Ray would do something like it's his macho duty to do so, mess up, attack himself and let self-pity overwhelm him, take it out on others (often Donna) while self-pitying himself some more. I think this is due to Gary growing up as a Ewing, while Ray never truly felt he belonged.</p></blockquote><p></p>