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Was Sue Ellen just as bad as JR?
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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 399432" data-attributes="member: 57984"><p>JR and Sue Ellen were flipsides of the same coin, both narcissists (although there was a time on this forum, long ago, where any criticism of Sue Ellen -- even just holding her accountable for her own behavior -- was seen as blasphemy... we even started a thread "Sue Ellen versus Jesus" and Sue Ellen won the poll handily).</p><p></p><p>There was a sadomasochistic dynamic between the pair, an obvious co-dependency. Katzman said the duo were caught up in "a lust sick relationship". Larry later said, "JR had a need to bully, Sue Ellen had a need to be bullied." At the time Linda herself described Sue Ellen as "a bitch" and "an alcoholic," "neurotic and psychotic," later became more protective in her comments about the character, but more recently said at an event that, "Okay --- I was a bitch...!" (to lots of hoots and laughter). </p><p></p><p>Clearly, if Sue Ellen had been healthier, she would have pulled away from JR earlier and left Texas forever; instead, once she toughened-up comparatively, she just flipped the switch and became the sadist while JR stumbled.</p><p></p><p>Until Telepictures decided they couldn't afford her anymore.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fi89N3VQnyo/hqdefault.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 625px" /></p><p></p><p>Even both the actors were <strong>Sun in Virgo/Moon in Aquarius</strong> -- as were Kristin and Mother Shepard (different rising signs, of course). All <strong>four</strong> of 'em...!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 399432, member: 57984"] JR and Sue Ellen were flipsides of the same coin, both narcissists (although there was a time on this forum, long ago, where any criticism of Sue Ellen -- even just holding her accountable for her own behavior -- was seen as blasphemy... we even started a thread "Sue Ellen versus Jesus" and Sue Ellen won the poll handily). There was a sadomasochistic dynamic between the pair, an obvious co-dependency. Katzman said the duo were caught up in "a lust sick relationship". Larry later said, "JR had a need to bully, Sue Ellen had a need to be bullied." At the time Linda herself described Sue Ellen as "a bitch" and "an alcoholic," "neurotic and psychotic," later became more protective in her comments about the character, but more recently said at an event that, "Okay --- I was a bitch...!" (to lots of hoots and laughter). Clearly, if Sue Ellen had been healthier, she would have pulled away from JR earlier and left Texas forever; instead, once she toughened-up comparatively, she just flipped the switch and became the sadist while JR stumbled. Until Telepictures decided they couldn't afford her anymore. [IMG width="625px"]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fi89N3VQnyo/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG] Even both the actors were [B]Sun in Virgo/Moon in Aquarius[/B] -- as were Kristin and Mother Shepard (different rising signs, of course). All [B]four[/B] of 'em...! [/QUOTE]
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