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<blockquote data-quote="James from London" data-source="post: 152330" data-attributes="member: 22"><p>I think the two key scenes that help explain this are the ones with Julie in 'Spy in the House' where JR tells her she's the only one who knows what he likes. "You taught me what you like," she replies. "Why don't you teach Sue Ellen? Why don't you tell her?", and the one in this episode where Sue Ellen asks him, "Is that what you want - somebody who doesn't want you?"</p><p></p><p>For JR, sex and all the fun dirty things are something to be done away from the family home. They're not what a wife is for (especially when Daddy and Mama are virtually in the next room. "You best go see your wife, Junior," Jock tells him in the first ep -- what kind of a turn-on is that?). And after seven years of (mostly) not doing it, Sue Ellen is probably more like a sister to him. So when she starts coming onto him, it's not that he simply doesn't want her; the idea repulses him. And the more she tries, the worse it gets. So then of course when she says she <em>doesn't</em> want him, it's unexpectedly exciting.</p><p></p><p>It's funny, I realise none of these things are spelt out, but they always just intuitively made sense to me, even though I'd have been quite young when I first watched these eps. Maybe it's because I read the Lee Raintree novel around the same time, which makes "what JR likes" explicitly clear, and that that isn't something you could ever ask a wife to do. The book also establishes Sue Ellen as being utterly clueless in bed, which makes sense given how controlling her mother was over every aspect of her life, i.e., it's all about appearances. It's all very infantile behaviour on JR's part, of course, but maybe that's another reason why it made sense to me when I was a kid. Before Bobby married Pam, he never had to think about growing up -- he could just wheel and deal and whore around. But now that that Barnes woman is here, he's being forced to face his responsibilities for the first time and it's not very sexy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James from London, post: 152330, member: 22"] I think the two key scenes that help explain this are the ones with Julie in 'Spy in the House' where JR tells her she's the only one who knows what he likes. "You taught me what you like," she replies. "Why don't you teach Sue Ellen? Why don't you tell her?", and the one in this episode where Sue Ellen asks him, "Is that what you want - somebody who doesn't want you?" For JR, sex and all the fun dirty things are something to be done away from the family home. They're not what a wife is for (especially when Daddy and Mama are virtually in the next room. "You best go see your wife, Junior," Jock tells him in the first ep -- what kind of a turn-on is that?). And after seven years of (mostly) not doing it, Sue Ellen is probably more like a sister to him. So when she starts coming onto him, it's not that he simply doesn't want her; the idea repulses him. And the more she tries, the worse it gets. So then of course when she says she [I]doesn't[/I] want him, it's unexpectedly exciting. It's funny, I realise none of these things are spelt out, but they always just intuitively made sense to me, even though I'd have been quite young when I first watched these eps. Maybe it's because I read the Lee Raintree novel around the same time, which makes "what JR likes" explicitly clear, and that that isn't something you could ever ask a wife to do. The book also establishes Sue Ellen as being utterly clueless in bed, which makes sense given how controlling her mother was over every aspect of her life, i.e., it's all about appearances. It's all very infantile behaviour on JR's part, of course, but maybe that's another reason why it made sense to me when I was a kid. Before Bobby married Pam, he never had to think about growing up -- he could just wheel and deal and whore around. But now that that Barnes woman is here, he's being forced to face his responsibilities for the first time and it's not very sexy. [/QUOTE]
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