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<blockquote data-quote="Daniel Avery" data-source="post: 443505" data-attributes="member: 27"><p>Speaking of which, Cole was one of three (!!) different men who were involved with Nikki and Victoria (at separate times, of course). Victoria was the daughter in the "man sleeps with mother and daughter" storylines in the past, so now it's time for her to graduate to the "mother" role in such triangles. </p><p></p><p>Though Mealor and Heinle are twenty years apart in age, it's really difficult to pin down exact ages for their characters since they've both been victimized by SORAS in the past.</p><p></p><p>Earlier this year, they said they were luring Jess Walton out of semi-retirement in Oregon with a meaty storyline to celebrate her forty years as Jill Abbott. Then....she became unavailable, or at least she never showed up for this storyline. I think this is the story they dreamed up, because it really dug into the past while supporting current story, with Jill's secrecy/covering up at its center. It feels to me like they had to retool this story heavily once it was no longer "Jill's return storyline". All the characters seem to have this blind spot where it never occurs to them to say <em>Hey, why don't we just call Jill in London and have her straighten all this out? </em>and instead has everyone trying to second-guess John, Phillip and Kay (RIPx3).</p><p></p><p>I told someone today that perhaps this is a retelling of a famous<em> Knots Landing</em> storyline. Paul went to great lengths to give away a piece of land (Empire Valley) that his son Greg coveted. When Gary was given the property, Greg was furious. He cursed his father's memory while pouting about this perceived slight. As viewers later found out, Paul gave Empire Valley away to Gary because he knew the land was a secret toxic waste dump, and whoever owned it would be on the hook for millions of dollars in clean-up costs. Paul had actually been trying to HELP his son by keeping Empire Valley out of his hands....it just took Greg a while to learn this.</p><p>So in a similar vein, Jill found out something terrible about CI's past (maybe something as scandalous and bankrupting as EV's toxic waste) and sought to keep Billy "safe" by selling the company off to Victor. She likely knew that if the big secret were to come out with Billy running the company it would ruin him, and instead she'd put Victor in the line of fire when/if such a thing was revealed. </p><p></p><p>The idea that John and Kay knew one another since high school is a retcon. I'm 99% sure they've retconned how CI came to be and how Kay factored into it. They currently claim she got the company from her first husband and that she got Phillip to run it when they married. But in the early years of the program, there was no "Chancellor Industries"---there was a single factory in town that was owned and run by Phillip Chancellor. Jill's mother Liz Foster (later retconned as her adoptive mother) worked there when we first met the Fosters. Kay was a "stay-at-home lush" who nagged her husband about spending too much time at the factory. She drank all the time and had no inclination toward business; if she had owned the factory then I'm sure she would have held that over Phillip in an effort to get him to stay home more. As for her friendship with John, they barely interacted until John started dating gold-digging Jill, and even then they were more "aware" of one another socially and not old friends. Kay sought to break up John and Jill but more out of hatred for Jill than friendship with John.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daniel Avery, post: 443505, member: 27"] Speaking of which, Cole was one of three (!!) different men who were involved with Nikki and Victoria (at separate times, of course). Victoria was the daughter in the "man sleeps with mother and daughter" storylines in the past, so now it's time for her to graduate to the "mother" role in such triangles. Though Mealor and Heinle are twenty years apart in age, it's really difficult to pin down exact ages for their characters since they've both been victimized by SORAS in the past. Earlier this year, they said they were luring Jess Walton out of semi-retirement in Oregon with a meaty storyline to celebrate her forty years as Jill Abbott. Then....she became unavailable, or at least she never showed up for this storyline. I think this is the story they dreamed up, because it really dug into the past while supporting current story, with Jill's secrecy/covering up at its center. It feels to me like they had to retool this story heavily once it was no longer "Jill's return storyline". All the characters seem to have this blind spot where it never occurs to them to say [I]Hey, why don't we just call Jill in London and have her straighten all this out? [/I]and instead has everyone trying to second-guess John, Phillip and Kay (RIPx3). I told someone today that perhaps this is a retelling of a famous[I] Knots Landing[/I] storyline. Paul went to great lengths to give away a piece of land (Empire Valley) that his son Greg coveted. When Gary was given the property, Greg was furious. He cursed his father's memory while pouting about this perceived slight. As viewers later found out, Paul gave Empire Valley away to Gary because he knew the land was a secret toxic waste dump, and whoever owned it would be on the hook for millions of dollars in clean-up costs. Paul had actually been trying to HELP his son by keeping Empire Valley out of his hands....it just took Greg a while to learn this. So in a similar vein, Jill found out something terrible about CI's past (maybe something as scandalous and bankrupting as EV's toxic waste) and sought to keep Billy "safe" by selling the company off to Victor. She likely knew that if the big secret were to come out with Billy running the company it would ruin him, and instead she'd put Victor in the line of fire when/if such a thing was revealed. The idea that John and Kay knew one another since high school is a retcon. I'm 99% sure they've retconned how CI came to be and how Kay factored into it. They currently claim she got the company from her first husband and that she got Phillip to run it when they married. But in the early years of the program, there was no "Chancellor Industries"---there was a single factory in town that was owned and run by Phillip Chancellor. Jill's mother Liz Foster (later retconned as her adoptive mother) worked there when we first met the Fosters. Kay was a "stay-at-home lush" who nagged her husband about spending too much time at the factory. She drank all the time and had no inclination toward business; if she had owned the factory then I'm sure she would have held that over Phillip in an effort to get him to stay home more. As for her friendship with John, they barely interacted until John started dating gold-digging Jill, and even then they were more "aware" of one another socially and not old friends. Kay sought to break up John and Jill but more out of hatred for Jill than friendship with John. [/QUOTE]
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