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<blockquote data-quote="Jimmy Todd" data-source="post: 315345" data-attributes="member: 3926">All the characters were flawed. Let&#039;s compare Afton to Miss Ellie. Afton let Cliff walk all over her to a point. Miss Ellie let Jock take over raising JR, to his detriment and let Jock and JR run roughshod over Gary. She also openly favored Gary, a major parenting flaw. &nbsp;Afton slept with a man to secure a deal to help the man she loved. Miss Ellie married Jock, whom she didn&#039;t love at the time, to save Southfork. Which is worse?&nbsp; I know some will come at me for implying Miss Ellie is on the same level as Afton. I&#039;m not really saying that as much as there&#039;s a lot of delicious moral ambiguity running through all the characters, which makes them so fascinating and relatable. &nbsp; As far as how the show treated women, I&nbsp; agree it didn&#039;t always&nbsp; treat them as well as it could have, but in Afton&#039;s defense, she was shown to be smarter than Cliff (and&nbsp; sometimes Pam). He looked like a fool compared to her.&nbsp;Just saying<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jimmy Todd, post: 315345, member: 3926"] All the characters were flawed. Let's compare Afton to Miss Ellie. Afton let Cliff walk all over her to a point. Miss Ellie let Jock take over raising JR, to his detriment and let Jock and JR run roughshod over Gary. She also openly favored Gary, a major parenting flaw. Afton slept with a man to secure a deal to help the man she loved. Miss Ellie married Jock, whom she didn't love at the time, to save Southfork. Which is worse? I know some will come at me for implying Miss Ellie is on the same level as Afton. I'm not really saying that as much as there's a lot of delicious moral ambiguity running through all the characters, which makes them so fascinating and relatable. As far as how the show treated women, I agree it didn't always treat them as well as it could have, but in Afton's defense, she was shown to be smarter than Cliff (and sometimes Pam). He looked like a fool compared to her. Just saying:) [/QUOTE]

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