Willie Oleson
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Were the women really just decorations in the original DALLAS?
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Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
Oh yes! This was THE season I was most looking forward to. After the death of Bobby I was expecting fireworks, especially between two of the biggest; JR and Pam. It was like the planets had aligned. For several seasons we witnessed JR's futile attempts at removing that Barnes woman from his life. On a recent re-watch I enjoyed the dream season for the most part but the writers balked at Pam. There was no need to reintroduce Mark as it weakened Pam. Once Bobby's WILL was read aloud and the glance JR offered Pam at the closing credits I thought, "The sh#t is gonna hit the fan."
Others will rightly disagree on this because of JR's business acumen, but let's be honest...was he really that good at business? By now I thought it was high time to ratchet Pam's character up a notch. Don't have her flailing at another mans knees. Write her as a confident - albeit nervous woman - entering into the world of business governed by men now ruffled by her very presence.
There was no need for the introduction of Angelica Nero. The story was right there, placed at your feet. The death of a much loved son, brother and father was the catalyst to transform Dallas into something we had not seen before. Again others will say Pam had nothing to offer compared to the brilliant and devious mind of JR. But I see that as a cop-out. I see a woman determined to protect her sons interest just like JR is determined to leave Ewing Oil to the rightful heir; John Ross.
The actors Larry and Victoria played beautifully off each other. You could see it each and every time they shared a scene. I wanted fireworks, face slapping or as someone else wrote...."a scorched Earth " approach from JR after the death of his brother.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
In hindsight it comes across as that doesn't it? Many will argue she was a creation to counter Alexis Carrington. But the whole Angelica Nero experience was misplaced on Dallas. It reeked of desperation.
Billy Wall
Telly Talk Dream Maker
No he was not. JR was a master at scheming and blackmail, but he was not good at business. Whenever he faced someone his own size, he usually lost.
J
JDNH
Guest
disagree... Sue Ellen finally became very strong during Season 9, and remained very strong in the following seasons...
Sarah
Moderator Emerita
Well no.,cos JR dumped her despite her manipulations.
Imagine if she’d manipulated Pam! Oh the outcry! :Clol:
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the-lost-son
Telly Talk Well-Known Member
I listen/read many interviews of the female cast indeed that woman were underpresented in Dallas. But - even if it was hardly addressed - I always believed this to be true for behind-the-scenes only.
Dallas women were strong and stood their ground even against their husband's. Sure they had their suffering parts to play, but so did the men. So I don't think any storylines contributed anything to that feeling.
Behind the scenes it's a different story and women probably did not feel appreciated as men. BBG let go over a salary dispute, Linda Gray fired for wanting to direct an episode, VP CT SH all let go and the men still there.
Show business is tough and I'm pretty sure they all had to fight many battles many hurdles to get there, especially during the 80s and before.
Dallas women were strong and stood their ground even against their husband's. Sure they had their suffering parts to play, but so did the men. So I don't think any storylines contributed anything to that feeling.
Behind the scenes it's a different story and women probably did not feel appreciated as men. BBG let go over a salary dispute, Linda Gray fired for wanting to direct an episode, VP CT SH all let go and the men still there.
Show business is tough and I'm pretty sure they all had to fight many battles many hurdles to get there, especially during the 80s and before.