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Why Did Philip Capice Leave Dallas?
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<blockquote data-quote="rkhullar" data-source="post: 359670" data-attributes="member: 55799"><p>I never watched Dynasty. I am biased I am a Texan. Look yall criticisms are not unwarranted nor do I disagree with some of them. I appreciate that certain things I wouldn't have done either. My point is look VP Left and told them in 85 that her concern was the writing wasn't there. She pretty much knew when the drop in ratings would happen. She timed things perfectly. I think no party really addressed that issue. Sometimes actors get paid so much and the credit goes to them but when a show fails we blame the writers right. I think that is a lot of this. Having said that. Capice was foolish to make Dallas look like a Bond series situation. Then the question becomes ok how do you undo that. So while it might seem stupid and nuts to have Pam wake up from a nasty dream how else could you undo that. My argument was after the season where you had PD leave. That's when they should have written things in a way that would be more forward thinking. That's when Weststar should have greater influence. In other words. Lets say Patrick Duffy had to come back. Maybe you could have made the last episode of how he died a dream perhaps. Even though he died and wanted to come back. I imagine not a dream but something to make him come back. Once you kill a character its hard to bring that character and then on top of which reverse nonsense unless you do what they did. If yall love PD how else would any of yall brought PD back. Like I said if Capice had not done that stupid season and brought Weststar in earlier. We could have some fun here. I think the whole BD Calhoun thing happening the season later that could have been moved up a season as I said earlier. Philip Capice again lies when he says that the issue of Ray Crebbs being Jock's child was progression no it wasn't. As I said before this has been documented it was Larry's idea to keep Steve Kanally from leaving. Again actually if you go back really far in the first 3 episodes he was fooling around with Lucy. So they never did explain that. But even then Larry ran the idea with Steve they took it to Katsman and it was signed off. So yeah Larry had impact even during that time. Understand Katzman basically was forced out during that so called dream season. Again I stress this because I think you guys need to understand while I agree that a lot of things should have been done way differently between seasons 11-14. Understand America and TV in general was coming to a new age. Texas itself its not as much to cover a bad recession and also in general the writing wasn't there in the closing years as VP was great at pointing out. Again PD wanted to do his thing. How else do yall think they could have brought back PD? Again I think yall are right on a few things. When It comes to Cally situation and the last season in particular ABSOLUTELY. I do think Linda Gray leaving early wasn't good. As you started to see Sue Ellen gain strength that also made JR weaker which in turn doesn't build ratings but then again Bobby beat him for Ewing Oil narrowly and he still came back. So like I said yall have to keep everything in perspective. But Phillip Capice should not have done that Angelica Nero season. It was ridiculous meaningless and plain stupid. He could have gotten better ratings if what had happened with BD Calhoun and losing Ewing Oil would have been done season before and like I said that would have been harder but probably more interesting to bring PD Back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rkhullar, post: 359670, member: 55799"] I never watched Dynasty. I am biased I am a Texan. Look yall criticisms are not unwarranted nor do I disagree with some of them. I appreciate that certain things I wouldn't have done either. My point is look VP Left and told them in 85 that her concern was the writing wasn't there. She pretty much knew when the drop in ratings would happen. She timed things perfectly. I think no party really addressed that issue. Sometimes actors get paid so much and the credit goes to them but when a show fails we blame the writers right. I think that is a lot of this. Having said that. Capice was foolish to make Dallas look like a Bond series situation. Then the question becomes ok how do you undo that. So while it might seem stupid and nuts to have Pam wake up from a nasty dream how else could you undo that. My argument was after the season where you had PD leave. That's when they should have written things in a way that would be more forward thinking. That's when Weststar should have greater influence. In other words. Lets say Patrick Duffy had to come back. Maybe you could have made the last episode of how he died a dream perhaps. Even though he died and wanted to come back. I imagine not a dream but something to make him come back. Once you kill a character its hard to bring that character and then on top of which reverse nonsense unless you do what they did. If yall love PD how else would any of yall brought PD back. Like I said if Capice had not done that stupid season and brought Weststar in earlier. We could have some fun here. I think the whole BD Calhoun thing happening the season later that could have been moved up a season as I said earlier. Philip Capice again lies when he says that the issue of Ray Crebbs being Jock's child was progression no it wasn't. As I said before this has been documented it was Larry's idea to keep Steve Kanally from leaving. Again actually if you go back really far in the first 3 episodes he was fooling around with Lucy. So they never did explain that. But even then Larry ran the idea with Steve they took it to Katsman and it was signed off. So yeah Larry had impact even during that time. Understand Katzman basically was forced out during that so called dream season. Again I stress this because I think you guys need to understand while I agree that a lot of things should have been done way differently between seasons 11-14. Understand America and TV in general was coming to a new age. Texas itself its not as much to cover a bad recession and also in general the writing wasn't there in the closing years as VP was great at pointing out. Again PD wanted to do his thing. How else do yall think they could have brought back PD? Again I think yall are right on a few things. When It comes to Cally situation and the last season in particular ABSOLUTELY. I do think Linda Gray leaving early wasn't good. As you started to see Sue Ellen gain strength that also made JR weaker which in turn doesn't build ratings but then again Bobby beat him for Ewing Oil narrowly and he still came back. So like I said yall have to keep everything in perspective. But Phillip Capice should not have done that Angelica Nero season. It was ridiculous meaningless and plain stupid. He could have gotten better ratings if what had happened with BD Calhoun and losing Ewing Oil would have been done season before and like I said that would have been harder but probably more interesting to bring PD Back. [/QUOTE]
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