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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rkhullar" data-source="post: 359723" data-attributes="member: 55799"><p>The article I read said that. I'd have to go back and Google it I thought she left because of her businesses that were making a Fortune of money but that's not really the real reason why she left. She was concerned that riders were leaving in groves and it's not just Capice or Katzman. Again I stress this there are a lot of things that I agree should have been done differently in seasons 11 to 14 but not everything in those seasons was bad. That's all I'm saying. Now season 14 in particular what was ridiculous about that was that westar basically was in a different plane and how I don't know because that whole Vienna thing and Susan Lucci and all that other stuff it was really wacko. Jordan Lee allowing her to terrorize that function shooting at Arabs and then Jr trying to get that westar stock away from Jessica locking himself in a mental institution and follow ended up giving it to him anyway it just seemed retarded I agree with that. Then westar's in its own world which is not making any sense. Then Jr sitting back and setting McKay up and we know that Johnny dancer was killed by Cliff Barnes. So that was all bull so I agree with you that season 14 definitely needs a lot of work it wasn't just Callie and other things but again let's look at what was going on in those days. This all is a result of writing not so much Katzman or Capice. Do you really think Philip capice would have come up with better ideas. We lost Ray Crebbs years ago we have no suellen Miss Allie is gone so what else was there to do. Susan Howard who played Donna Krebs she's gone. I think a lot of it was just actors going their own way and you had to find literally a whole new cast and make up something and they tried to me that was a stupid if not stupider in some ways than the whole Bond thing but like I said earlier on you could get away with it once the show lost its credibility no. But you do make an interesting point if Patrick never came back how would that have gone but then if VP was going to leave anyway what would replace her then Jr would win and then the ratings would go down anyway. Let's say we take your analysis and PD doesn't come back and it's VP and Larry basically okay now what now VP wants to leave now what. Then you'd have to show Jr versus West Star wouldn't you then you'd have to put some other powerful Independents or something. So writing would have had to be even more complicated and I don't know that you would have been able to do it that way. But VP was destined to leave in 87 and she left in 87</p></blockquote><p></p>

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